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Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:48 pm
by Mellsblue
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:20 pm
Oakboy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:17 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 9:04 pm
If you look across to the right wing, Penaud became a fixture in the France side after one season playing for Clermont… a season he started as back-up for Rougerie at 13
I suppose 'it's only Italy' has to be said but . . . . Pace on the ball + 15-man continuity + Aldritt = pretty damned good!
Yep. Like watching a different sport and that’s just the intent. The execution is like watching a different species.
This
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:49 pm
by Lizard
If England had to win this, they could. Samoa’s set pieces are creaking, and their handling under pressure is inaccurate. I’m not convinced that England really want it though. They’re barely applauding opposition knock ons.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:50 pm
by Oakboy
Spiffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:45 pm
Insouciant wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:37 pm
Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:30 pm
That’s a bullshit call. All three players had a hand on it. The timing is a joke.
That's such poor reffing. It's not clearly off the Samoan guy and they'd already taken the conversion.
Samoa really deserve to have at least 5 extra points. England are playing terribly, I'm guessing Ford will cop the blame for this.
What happened to that conversion law? Is it no longer in force? This officiating is a fuukking farce? If the try can be reversed after the kick, then is there any provision for reversing the reversal and awarding the try? Yet again the minnows are being cheated out of a result.
According to the commentary, decisions can be altered up to the restart so nothing wrong with the process.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:50 pm
by Sourdust
FWIW as a "neutral" I think the TMO k-o call was forensically correct.
I also think Samoa can look Brian McNeice in the eye and ask, "Are you watching EVERYTHING that closely, Brian? Are you REALLY?"
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:51 pm
by Buggaluggs
Spiffy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:45 pm
Insouciant wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:37 pm
Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:30 pm
That’s a bullshit call. All three players had a hand on it. The timing is a joke.
That's such poor reffing. It's not clearly off the Samoan guy and they'd already taken the conversion.
Samoa really deserve to have at least 5 extra points. England are playing terribly, I'm guessing Ford will cop the blame for this.
What happened to that conversion law? Is it no longer in force? This officiating is a fuukking farce? If the try can be reversed after the kick, then is there any provision for reversing the reversal and awarding the try? Yet again the minnows are being cheated out of a result.
Happened to Wales too. But that was a TMO after-the-fact foul play that brought play back to before the try, so more justification for it.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:52 pm
by Sourdust
Lizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:49 pm
If England had to win this, they could. Samoa’s set pieces are creaking, and their handling under pressure is inaccurate. I’m not convinced that England really want it though. They’re barely applauding opposition knock ons.
Earl has only come once so far, and I think that was for a turnover.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:52 pm
by Oakboy
Just caught SCW saying we need pace. Correct.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:53 pm
by jngf
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:43 pm
morepork wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:35 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:34 pm
No more Coors Light for you, old bean.
Sake, believe it or not.
Bloody hell. You’re doing well to type anything. A friend of mine brought some back from Japan once, the first and last time I’ve drunk it. The only thing worse I’ve drunk is absinthe.
I’ll raise you one glass of black balsam I had in Riga - such was the hangover I missed two random hostellers shag each other in the bunk opposite - completely spark out and it took my mate to raise a bacon sandwich in front of me and say wake up we’re late for the holocaust museum…
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:54 pm
by Buggaluggs
Soo. if Samoa win with a BP, they get 11 points, right? So they still can't qualify as both Japan and Argentina have the head-to-head. Or am I figuring that wrong?
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:55 pm
by jngf
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:43 pm
morepork wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:35 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:34 pm
No more Coors Light for you, old bean.
Sake, believe it or not.
Bloody hell. You’re doing well to type anything. A friend of mine brought some back from Japan once, the first and last time I’ve drunk it. The only thing worse I’ve drunk is absinthe.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:57 pm
by jngf
Farrell can’t catch or pass
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:57 pm
by Buggaluggs
Has Mitchel played before?
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:57 pm
by Mellsblue
jngf wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:55 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:43 pm
morepork wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:35 pm
Sake, believe it or not.
Bloody hell. You’re doing well to type anything. A friend of mine brought some back from Japan once, the first and last time I’ve drunk it. The only thing worse I’ve drunk is absinthe.
I’ll raise you one glass of black balsam I had in Riga - such was the hangover I missed two random hostellers shag each other in the bunk opposite - completely spark out and it took my mate to raise a bacon sandwich in front of me and say wake up we’re late for the holocaust museum…
Did not see that plot twist at the end coming…
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:58 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Good chase down by Ford there. The commentator initially credited Farrell XD
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:01 pm
by Mellsblue
Mr Mwenda wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:58 pm
Good chase down by Ford there. The commentator initially credited Farrell XD
Yep. It was Monye - probs too busy looking in the mirror.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:01 pm
by jngf
Is Borther’s going to stick Billy on openside whilst Curry’s being patched up? Just to add a bit of gas

Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:01 pm
by FKAS
Mr Mwenda wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:58 pm
Good chase down by Ford there. The commentator initially credited Farrell XD
Even after correcting himself Monye still tried to give Farrell some credit for chasing back and not doing anything.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:02 pm
by Lizard
Buggaluggs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:54 pm
Soo. if Samoa win with a BP, they get 11 points, right? So they still can't qualify as both Japan and Argentina have the head-to-head. Or am I figuring that wrong?
I think if Samoa get a BP win, and Japan draw with Argentina with no BPs, it goes to points difference. Samoa is ahead of Japan on PD.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:03 pm
by jngf
Cole off for his Werthers Originals and WW2 box sets
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:03 pm
by Mellsblue
Sinfield’s defence is trash.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:04 pm
by FKAS
Monye has just managed to call Lawes Manu. Has he been enjoying to many refreshments.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:04 pm
by Mr Mwenda
Buggaluggs wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 5:57 pm
Has Mitchel played before?
Have any of them played before?
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:04 pm
by Epaminondas Pules
Luckily we’ve got game changers on the bench……..
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:04 pm
by Mellsblue
Earl needed to offload that. He only had three options, in his defence… probs orders not to do anything adventurous.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:05 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:03 pm
Sinfield’s defence is trash.
It relies on you dominating the contact and staying connected, England aren't doing either.