Scots Abroad VIII (or let's spot the new messiah)

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Two for Maitland as well I hear?

Seymour 6 in two games, Hogg scoring and creating. It's all too brilliant for words.

....Mockers gods keeping an eye on things :shock:
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af73 wrote:Two for Maitland as well I hear?

Seymour 6 in two games, Hogg scoring and creating. It's all too brilliant for words.

....Mockers gods keeping an eye on things :shock:
Yes, Laidlaw at 9 so it's a moot point whether they are fit or not. We already knew those 3 were devastating in attack. Seymour has hit new heights though, I'll give him that.
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Shame for Denton but let's be honest, apart from during RWC 15 when he wasn't utterly sht...he's generally been pretty drastic for Scotland.

On a slight tangent, people can give out about Laidlaw all they want but when your pack gets blown away in contact, you could have EinE at SH and still struggle. We need a pack and a backrow that can cope at the breakdown.

Case in point - saw comments about Pyrgos on Sat slowing things down. Personally thought he was fine. When your pack can't get over the gainline then it's pretty fckin difficult.

I have been drinking.

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Completely fair on Denton. He'll have a stormer every time people have just about lost faith in him, then seems to go a bit aimless again.

Laidlaw stymies so much potential good/quick ball that he doesn't get to use that excuse. I'd say he generally has more of a negative impact on our gain-line than anybody in the pack, most games.
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ARM wrote:Shame for Denton but let's be honest, apart from during RWC 15 when he wasn't utterly sht...he's generally been pretty drastic for Scotland.

On a slight tangent, people can give out about Laidlaw all they want but when your pack gets blown away in contact, you could have EinE at SH and still struggle. We need a pack and a backrow that can cope at the breakdown.

Case in point - saw comments about Pyrgos on Sat slowing things down. Personally thought he was fine. When your pack can't get over the gainline then it's pretty fckin difficult.

I have been drinking.

Grrr
I think Denton gets a bit of the whipping boy treatment sometimes. He has been no where near as bad as some would suggest but by the same token he shouldn't be seen as a cert based on recent club and international form of all the options.

I am hopeful Bradbury can become the player we thought Denton could be. He has a bit of pace, good carrier and good hands.

Your point about Laidlaw would be valid if he didn't slow down perfectly good ruck ball when the forwards clear quickly or if he hadn't shown he is capable before. He should just about keep his place for the time being as we need his kicking but at 31 in a few weeks his time is nearing an end and we need someone to step up and take the shirt from him. There are plenty of younger options (at least 6 on full contracts at the 2 pro sides, Scott Steele etc) but no one has made a really strong case.
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ARM wrote:Shame for Denton but let's be honest, apart from during RWC 15 when he wasn't utterly sht...he's generally been pretty drastic for Scotland.

On a slight tangent, people can give out about Laidlaw all they want but when your pack gets blown away in contact, you could have EinE at SH and still struggle. We need a pack and a backrow that can cope at the breakdown.

Case in point - saw comments about Pyrgos on Sat slowing things down. Personally thought he was fine. When your pack can't get over the gainline then it's pretty fckin difficult.

I have been drinking.

Grrr
I think Denton gets a bit of the whipping boy treatment sometimes. He has been no where near as bad as some would suggest but by the same token he shouldn't be seen as a cert based on recent club and international form of all the options.

I am hopeful Bradbury can become the player we thought Denton could be. He has a bit of pace, good carrier and good hands.

Your point about Laidlaw would be valid if he didn't slow down perfectly good ruck ball when the forwards clear quickly or if he hadn't shown he is capable before. He should just about keep his place for the time being as we need his kicking but at 31 in a few weeks his time is nearing an end and we need someone to step up and take the shirt from him. There are plenty of younger options (at least 6 on full contracts at the 2 pro sides, Scott Steele etc) but no one has made a really strong case.
Pyrgos has taken on kicking duties at Glasgow, if he can attain a high percentage he's a shout for straight replacement.
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hp18 wrote:
Big D wrote:
ARM wrote:Shame for Denton but let's be honest, apart from during RWC 15 when he wasn't utterly sht...he's generally been pretty drastic for Scotland.

On a slight tangent, people can give out about Laidlaw all they want but when your pack gets blown away in contact, you could have EinE at SH and still struggle. We need a pack and a backrow that can cope at the breakdown.

Case in point - saw comments about Pyrgos on Sat slowing things down. Personally thought he was fine. When your pack can't get over the gainline then it's pretty fckin difficult.

I have been drinking.

Grrr
I think Denton gets a bit of the whipping boy treatment sometimes. He has been no where near as bad as some would suggest but by the same token he shouldn't be seen as a cert based on recent club and international form of all the options.

I am hopeful Bradbury can become the player we thought Denton could be. He has a bit of pace, good carrier and good hands.

Your point about Laidlaw would be valid if he didn't slow down perfectly good ruck ball when the forwards clear quickly or if he hadn't shown he is capable before. He should just about keep his place for the time being as we need his kicking but at 31 in a few weeks his time is nearing an end and we need someone to step up and take the shirt from him. There are plenty of younger options (at least 6 on full contracts at the 2 pro sides, Scott Steele etc) but no one has made a really strong case.
Pyrgos has taken on kicking duties at Glasgow, if he can attain a high percentage he's a shout for straight replacement.
We can but hope.
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I know hes not fit right now but have we given up hope of Russell ever being a good enough kicker?
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Mikey Brown wrote:I know hes not fit right now but have we given up hope of Russell ever being a good enough kicker?
Nope.
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Hugh Blake is playing for Bay of Plenty on SS1 right now. Just coming to the ned of the first half. Seems to be doing OK, team is losing though.

BOP have a decent scrum half whose surname is Campbell. No idea about his background, but he could possibly have a Scottish granny with that name. Even if his ancestors are a shower of scumbag turncoats who fought with the English.
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General Zod wrote:Hugh Blake is playing for Bay of Plenty on SS1 right now. Just coming to the ned of the first half. Seems to be doing OK, team is losing though.

BOP have a decent scrum half whose surname is Campbell. No idea about his background, but he could possibly have a Scottish granny with that name. Even if his ancestors are a shower of scumbag turncoats who fought with the English.
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General Zod wrote: Even if his ancestors are a shower of scumbag turncoats who fought with the English.
This is worse than half the shite seen on twitter.
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Haha. I'll freely admit to trying to get a response. He did look good tho.
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"Never trust a Campbell". So many of them turn out to be black watch scum as well (nudge nudge)

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Adder wrote:"Never trust a Campbell". So many of them turn out to be black watch scum as well (nudge nudge)

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Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

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Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote:"Never trust a Campbell". So many of them turn out to be black watch scum as well (nudge nudge)

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Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

(I fully realise that being 5 SCOTS now means being a chocolate soldier)
I tried too hard... The campbells I know were in the blackwatch. From a military family which has been serving the Empire for 300 odd years. I dont believe they are from the Argyle branch though. Lovely familly history, repressing in India, bounty hunting aboriginees in Australia, more recently, "peace keeping" in Northern Ireland.

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Adder wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote:"Never trust a Campbell". So many of them turn out to be black watch scum as well (nudge nudge)

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Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

(I fully realise that being 5 SCOTS now means being a chocolate soldier)
I tried too hard... The campbells I know were in the blackwatch. From a military family which has been serving the Empire for 300 odd years. I dont believe they are from the Argyle branch though. Lovely familly history, repressing in India, bounty hunting aboriginees in Australia, more recently, "peace keeping" in Northern Ireland.

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I dare say there are Campbells outside of Argyle. Some of them sneak off the reservation.
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Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote:
Stones of granite wrote: Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

(I fully realise that being 5 SCOTS now means being a chocolate soldier)
I tried too hard... The campbells I know were in the blackwatch. From a military family which has been serving the Empire for 300 odd years. I dont believe they are from the Argyle branch though. Lovely familly history, repressing in India, bounty hunting aboriginees in Australia, more recently, "peace keeping" in Northern Ireland.

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I dare say there are Campbells outside of Argyle. Some of them sneak off the reservation.
I think they are Campbells of Breadalbane. Southern Scots.

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Adder wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote: I tried too hard... The campbells I know were in the blackwatch. From a military family which has been serving the Empire for 300 odd years. I dont believe they are from the Argyle branch though. Lovely familly history, repressing in India, bounty hunting aboriginees in Australia, more recently, "peace keeping" in Northern Ireland.

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I dare say there are Campbells outside of Argyle. Some of them sneak off the reservation.
I think they are Campbells of Breadalbane. Southern Scots.

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Breadalbane is very definitely in the Highlands - Highland Perthshire. It is Black Watch country, though.
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Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote:
Stones of granite wrote: I dare say there are Campbells outside of Argyle. Some of them sneak off the reservation.
I think they are Campbells of Breadalbane. Southern Scots.

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Breadalbane is very definitely in the Highlands - Highland Perthshire. It is Black Watch country, though.
Southern Highlands. ;)

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Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote:"Never trust a Campbell". So many of them turn out to be black watch scum as well (nudge nudge)

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Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

(I fully realise that being 5 SCOTS now means being a chocolate soldier)
Now?
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OptimisticJock wrote:
Stones of granite wrote:
Adder wrote:"Never trust a Campbell". So many of them turn out to be black watch scum as well (nudge nudge)

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Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

(I fully realise that being 5 SCOTS now means being a chocolate soldier)
Now?
Target awoken...

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Adder wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Stones of granite wrote: Wash your mouth out. No proper Campbell would join any other regiment than the Argyll and Southern Highlanders.

(I fully realise that being 5 SCOTS now means being a chocolate soldier)
Now?
Target awoken...

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I think you've missed my meaning.
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This got weird quickly.
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Rory Hutchinson and NDL on opposite benches for Saints v Wasps this weekend.
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