RugbyRebels

He's a twat.

Lol.

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:57 pm

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:27 am

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:20 am And now Biden has covid. Jesus christ.

A conspiracy theory we can all get behind, at last!

Could this be the medical excuse Biden is looking for? I don't wish the man any ill. I would like him to step aside and perhaps a dose of covid might remind him that he's getting weaker and no longer up to it.

What I'm struggling to understand is why the leadership of the Democrats is pushing so hard to get him nominated set in concrete? I know that there is a need to register a Democratic candidate in states before a cut-off date, but I understand that to be early August. This insistence on ignoring the issue of Biden's capability to hold high office moving forward is plain dumb.

Well, I don't know much, I've seen a fair bit on socials (pinch of salt etc) about how the likes of Pelosi and others are now trying to get him to stand aside, plus today I've seen several polls that claim to show voters in swing states would happily vote Democrat (over Republican) if almost anyone other than Biden or Harris were on the ticket. Maybe all hope isn't lost? Or maybe I shouldn't believe what I see on socials and just accept that Trump will win.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:15 pm

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:57 pm

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:27 am

A conspiracy theory we can all get behind, at last!

Could this be the medical excuse Biden is looking for? I don't wish the man any ill. I would like him to step aside and perhaps a dose of covid might remind him that he's getting weaker and no longer up to it.

What I'm struggling to understand is why the leadership of the Democrats is pushing so hard to get him nominated set in concrete? I know that there is a need to register a Democratic candidate in states before a cut-off date, but I understand that to be early August. This insistence on ignoring the issue of Biden's capability to hold high office moving forward is plain dumb.

Well, I don't know much, I've seen a fair bit on socials (pinch of salt etc) about how the likes of Pelosi and others are now trying to get him to stand aside, plus today I've seen several polls that claim to show voters in swing states would happily vote Democrat (over Republican) if almost anyone other than Biden or Harris were on the ticket. Maybe all hope isn't lost? Or maybe I shouldn't believe what I see on socials and just accept that Trump will win.

I think Trumps base is entirely behind him but that’s not a majority of the electorate. I’m sure other voters will go elsewhere if given a reason to. Biden just isn’t inspiring them to do so.

I’d love to see if Whitmer could take on Trump

It's like an episode of "The Day Today"

Kamala now bookies favourite to get the nomination

Not a hope she beats trump

Whitmer seems to be someone who could challenge trump in mid West battlegrounds where it'll be won and lost. There's really only half a dozen states up for grabs

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:43 pm Kamala now bookies favourite to get the nomination

Not a hope she beats trump

Whitmer seems to be someone who could challenge trump in mid West battlegrounds where it'll be won and lost. There's really only half a dozen states up for grabs

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Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:09 pm

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:43 pm Kamala now bookies favourite to get the nomination

Not a hope she beats trump

Whitmer seems to be someone who could challenge trump in mid West battlegrounds where it'll be won and lost. There's really only half a dozen states up for grabs

The best democracy dollars can buy.

Pinko woke radical socialist liberal. You groom kids and hate jebus.

@Morepork, as our man on the ground in Philly, could Kamala win Pennsylvania?

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:43 pm Kamala now bookies favourite to get the nomination

Not a hope she beats trump

Whitmer seems to be someone who could challenge trump in mid West battlegrounds where it'll be won and lost. There's really only half a dozen states up for grabs

Kamala just might but America is almost as racist as it is sexist, so...

Whitmer has said that she doesn't want it (this time). Even if she did, the big problem is that she's completely untested on the national stage. Even with decent (if incomplete) name id, the scrutiny of a presidential run is just different. Just ask Ron Desantis.

Massive conundrum here. Kamala is the obvious replacement, but she doesn’t appear to be that popular and there’s a racist and sexist issue to get over. But would the Dems want to replace her with a white man? Not a great look.

I like Whitmee but if she isn’t keen yet then I’m not sure who else. I have a horrible feeling that it’s too late and this is now about damage limitation.

Somebody get Oprah on the phone.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:45 pm Trump really is the luckiest motherfucker in American political history.

He couldn’t have scripted this better. Get accused of a bunch of crimes that can get delayed or thrown out by corrupt judges, or which aren’t taken that seriously. That gives him victim hood. Add in a president who is on his last legs and an attempted assassination attempt for a
Small dose of martyrdom.

Everything really is going his way at the moment.

Don't forget classy. Trump is class, in the manliest of manly ways:


"Trump appeared after Kid Rock delivered a version of his song American Bad Ass, an introduction from Ultimate Fighting Championship chief Dana White, a shirt-ripping endorsement from wrestling legend Hulk Hogan and a singalong version of his rally anthem God Bless the USA."

White Trash Central.

morepork wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:44 pm Don't forget classy. Trump is class, in the manliest of manly ways:


"Trump appeared after Kid Rock delivered a version of his song American Bad Ass, an introduction from Ultimate Fighting Championship chief Dana White, a shirt-ripping endorsement from wrestling legend Hulk Hogan and a singalong version of his rally anthem God Bless the USA."

White Trash Central.

I was listening to someone describe J D Vance as the intellectual heft of MAGA on a podcast earlier which puzzled me until I considered the rest of them.

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:08 pm

morepork wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:44 pm Don't forget classy. Trump is class, in the manliest of manly ways:


"Trump appeared after Kid Rock delivered a version of his song American Bad Ass, an introduction from Ultimate Fighting Championship chief Dana White, a shirt-ripping endorsement from wrestling legend Hulk Hogan and a singalong version of his rally anthem God Bless the USA."

White Trash Central.

I was listening to someone describe J D Vance as the intellectual heft of MAGA on a podcast earlier which puzzled me until I considered the rest of them.

I think Vance is acting dumber than he really is though, to get that blue collar demographic. The ones who think he gives a shit about them because he wrote a book with Hillbilly in the title.

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:00 am Massive conundrum here. Kamala is the obvious replacement, but she doesn’t appear to be that popular and there’s a racist and sexist issue to get over. But would the Dems want to replace her with a white man? Not a great look.

I like Whitmee but if she isn’t keen yet then I’m not sure who else. I have a horrible feeling that it’s too late and this is now about damage limitation.

I'm worried that he just won't go. But the drying up of funds should give him a taste of chilly reality. I hope.

But if he does go I can't see anything other than him anointing Harris. It's not actually in his gift, she would still need to win the vote, but all the momentum and patronage and money would be with her.

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:42 pm

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:00 am Massive conundrum here. Kamala is the obvious replacement, but she doesn’t appear to be that popular and there’s a racist and sexist issue to get over. But would the Dems want to replace her with a white man? Not a great look.

I like Whitmee but if she isn’t keen yet then I’m not sure who else. I have a horrible feeling that it’s too late and this is now about damage limitation.

I'm worried that he just won't go. But the drying up of funds should give him a taste of chilly reality. I hope.

But if he does go I can't see anything other than him anointing Harris. It's not actually in his gift, she would still need to win the vote, but all the momentum and patronage and money would be with her.

The DRC might eventually find the balls to push Biden out, but there's no way in hell they will be able to do that and deny him his choice of successor.

Puja

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:32 pm

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:08 pm

morepork wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:44 pm Don't forget classy. Trump is class, in the manliest of manly ways:


"Trump appeared after Kid Rock delivered a version of his song American Bad Ass, an introduction from Ultimate Fighting Championship chief Dana White, a shirt-ripping endorsement from wrestling legend Hulk Hogan and a singalong version of his rally anthem God Bless the USA."

White Trash Central.

I was listening to someone describe J D Vance as the intellectual heft of MAGA on a podcast earlier which puzzled me until I considered the rest of them.

I think Vance is acting dumber than he really is though, to get that blue collar demographic. The ones who think he gives a shit about them because he wrote a book with Hillbilly in the title.

That’s possible. He also seems to come across as more ideologically hard right than Trump, which isn’t a happy thought.

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:43 am

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:32 pm

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:08 pm

I was listening to someone describe J D Vance as the intellectual heft of MAGA on a podcast earlier which puzzled me until I considered the rest of them.

I think Vance is acting dumber than he really is though, to get that blue collar demographic. The ones who think he gives a shit about them because he wrote a book with Hillbilly in the title.

That’s possible. He also seems to come across as more ideologically hard right than Trump, which isn’t a happy thought.

I did hear (from C4 news) that he's changed his views so radically (from the centre-right) that it's hard to believe anything he says.

Puja wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:42 am

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:42 pm

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:00 am Massive conundrum here. Kamala is the obvious replacement, but she doesn’t appear to be that popular and there’s a racist and sexist issue to get over. But would the Dems want to replace her with a white man? Not a great look.

I like Whitmee but if she isn’t keen yet then I’m not sure who else. I have a horrible feeling that it’s too late and this is now about damage limitation.

I'm worried that he just won't go. But the drying up of funds should give him a taste of chilly reality. I hope.

But if he does go I can't see anything other than him anointing Harris. It's not actually in his gift, she would still need to win the vote, but all the momentum and patronage and money would be with her.

The DRC might eventually find the balls to push Biden out, but there's no way in hell they will be able to do that and deny him his choice of successor.

Puja

It's not really something they can do. He's got the votes so he's the nominee. I'm not sure even invoking the 25th amendment (which there's no way they'll do) would mean that he wasn't the nominee. He needs to be persuaded that he cannot win. And I think he probably cannot. His team need to make him watch the debate then set out what he needs to do to counter-act that (a shit ton of interviews day and night without seeming senile and ideally without making more gaffes, which would be interpreted as him being senile). They need to be honest and say they don't think he can manage that and get out the necessary messages in those interviews. Biden has a great story to tell. He's been a brilliant president. But he's incapable of campaigning and telling that story. I thought they would manage to marshall the full talents of the party and use them to get the message out but the reality is that the american media is not vaguely interested in policy and is only just about interested in reporting the presidential contenders.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:29 am

Puja wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:42 am

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:42 pm
I'm worried that he just won't go. But the drying up of funds should give him a taste of chilly reality. I hope.

But if he does go I can't see anything other than him anointing Harris. It's not actually in his gift, she would still need to win the vote, but all the momentum and patronage and money would be with her.

The DRC might eventually find the balls to push Biden out, but there's no way in hell they will be able to do that and deny him his choice of successor.

Puja

He's been a brilliant president.

The outcomes under him, with the Ukraine and post covid backdrop, are amazing indeed.

Sadly his record is getting zero attention. Just his ability to appear like he can continue for another 4 years.

Trump has raw energy and Biden just looks increasingly feeble against that. A large part of the presidency is appearing to be presidential.

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:00 am Sadly his record is getting zero attention. Just his ability to appear like he can continue for another 4 years.

Trump has raw energy and Biden just looks increasingly feeble against that. A large part of the presidency is appearing to be presidential.

No point (electorally speaking) if you improve things but no one notices. You need to make a big enough improvement in their lives that they can't ignore it. Wealth redistribution is a sensible approach - a dollar is more noticeable to the poor than the rich (and a better economic stimulus) - so transfer some of them!

Goddamn commie talk.

https://x.com/MarinaMedvin/status/18150 ... _qihg&s=19

Biden dropped out.