Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Whilst I generally don't like using cases because it's such a function of the testing regime I understand that the increase is disproportionate to the increases in testing. They're fucked. Fascinating that some of the states in three North East are trying to quarantine visitors from other states.
I'm not entirely sure it's constitutional. I think someone (Gretchen Whitmer?) had a go early on them backed down.morepork wrote:Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Whilst I generally don't like using cases because it's such a function of the testing regime I understand that the increase is disproportionate to the increases in testing. They're fucked. Fascinating that some of the states in three North East are trying to quarantine visitors from other states.
That should have been the norm nationwide from the get-go.
True, it appears to be only mildly seasonal - certainly as summer arrived northward from Spa, Ita, Fra & UK cases in these parts dropped sharply alongside some level of control & modified behaviours. It hasn't disappeared like the Flu (about 2x transmittance, still near zippo immunity..5% ish i think ) and it running amok in refridgerated processing plants highlights how critical the race for a vaccine could be...for this year's Oktoberfest, we need beer not fear.Son of Mathonwy wrote: Suggests that Covid-19 isn't particularly interested in being a seasonal thing.
Bloody millennials.Galfon wrote:Could be posted on any of about 5 freds...where have they been ?? ...
Burdened with a lifetime of debt? Or proudly fulfilling their patriotic duty with a lifetime worth of contributions (if not more) to the economy? Who’s to say which is the correct interpretation.morepork wrote:Bad enough to show that a new health system is needed. How anyone could defend this one is beyond me. The governments refusal to centralise a response and step in and regulate some emergency costs has seen instances of insurance companies charging thousands of dollars for a single diagnostic test. There will be millions of people burdened with a lifetime of debt from medical bills for years, if not a lifetime thanks to this pigs anus of a system.
Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit Brown. If patriotism means fealty to insurance companies, then we should be sweet.Mikey Brown wrote:Burdened with a lifetime of debt? Or proudly fulfilling their patriotic duty with a lifetimemorepork wrote:Bad enough to show that a new health system is needed. How anyone could defend this one is beyond me. The governments refusal to centralise a response and step in and regulate some emergency costs has seen instances of insurance companies charging thousands of dollars for a single diagnostic test. There will be millions of people burdened with a lifetime of debt from medical bills for years, if not a lifetime thanks to this pigs anus of a system.
worth of contributions (if not more) to the
economy? Who’s to say which is the correct interpretation.
HAH! This government having a plan! You card, Digby!Digby wrote:I can accept the UK government mayn't have had plans specific for Leicester ready to use, but how did they get communication around shutting down a locality so fucked up? We've never been brilliant on messaging around Covid but we shat the bed over Agent Cummings and Goings and never recovered to a basic level such you might get a C in a GCSE, surely they must have had plans in place for this?
They had a plan, or at least had taken advice on how to handle messaging around the pandemic. Okay they pissed it up the wall over Dominic but still, it was there. And I'm sure somebody must have discussed local lockdowns, so are they being so vague because again they don't really want to pay for lockdown but they also want plausible deniability if anything goes wrong? I know 3 people who have open questions to their local MPs about whether they can/should be travelling to work in Leicester, or travelling from Leicester (well surrounding area) to work, and I've heard plenty of local businesses say they have no idea what's happening and don't know where to ask or when to expect an answerPuja wrote:HAH! This government having a plan! You card, Digby!Digby wrote:I can accept the UK government mayn't have had plans specific for Leicester ready to use, but how did they get communication around shutting down a locality so fucked up? We've never been brilliant on messaging around Covid but we shat the bed over Agent Cummings and Goings and never recovered to a basic level such you might get a C in a GCSE, surely they must have had plans in place for this?
Puja
How does Sweden compare with its direct neighbours Denmark, Norway and Finland then?Donny osmond wrote:Interesting comment. The only source linked on the twitter thread is this from the BBC, so I can't say where he's got the figures for that graph from.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-53233974
This is a thoroughly ridiculous way to manage a public health crisis and it boggles my mind at the lack of shared data and shared decision making going on here.The ability of local leaders to manage new coronavirus outbreaks in the UK is being hampered by gaps in the reporting of infection data for cities and regions, according to analysis by the Financial Times.
The government publishes a UK-wide figure for Covid-19 cases every day that includes tests from hospitals and those processed by commercial laboratories, including samples taken at home. But at a subnational level the total of new daily cases contains only hospital tests. The result is that hundreds of local authorities across the country are unable to see a timely picture of what is happening in their communities or compare that with other cities and regions of the UK.
This gap in the subnational and regional data has been cited by local political leaders and health officials in Leicester as one reason for a delay in locking down the east Midlands city, where virus cases have spiked. “For weeks we have been trying to get information about the level of testing in the city and the results of that testing in the city,” Peter Soulsby, mayor of Leicester, told the BBC on Tuesday. According to published data for Leicester, the city recorded just 80 new positive tests between June 13-26. But health secretary Matt Hancock revealed that there were in fact 944 as he announced the decision to tighten the lockdown in Leicester, closing non-essential shops and ordering schools to shut to all non-key worker pupils by Thursday.
Public Health England publishes a weekly breakdown of the two categories: tests from hospitals, known as pillar 1, and from commercial labs that process at-home and drive-through tests, known as pillar 2. While PHE releases full data for England’s nine main regions with a two-week delay, the areas are too big to give local authorities a useful picture of the situation in their communities.
Leicester city council’s public health department only received the elevated infection numbers cited by Mr Hancock last Thursday. They could not compare with places elsewhere because the so-called pillar 2 figures are only made available to officials in their own local authority area if they have signed the Data Protection Act. “I would wish that they had shared that [data] with us right from the start,” said Sir Peter, Leicester’s mayor. “And I wish they had taken a more speedy decision rather than leaving it 11 days. That's a long gap and a long time for the virus to spread.”
Suspected Covid-19 outbreaks in English workplaces double in a week
Spread of virus in workplaces is trending up while transmission in most other settings declines.
Suspected outbreaks of Covid-19 in workplaces in England almost doubled in the past week, prompting concern as more people return to their jobs.
Public Health England (PHE) said 43 acute respiratory outbreaks were reported in workplaces in the week ending 28 June, up from 22 in the previous week.
The data shows the spread of the virus in workplaces is trending up while transmission in most other settings is in decline. Workplaces are now the only location where the spread of the virus is clearly on the increase.
Low-paid, manual workers, face a much greater risk of dying from coronavirus than higher-paid, white-collar workers. Security guards, care workers, construction workers, plant operatives, cleaners, taxi drivers, bus drivers, chefs and retail workers are all at a greater risk of dying, according to analysis of Covid-19 fatalities from the Office for National Statistics.
The whole thing is shamefully amateurish.Which Tyler wrote:
Startling stuff in this FT piece regarding the lack of data distilled down to a local level (text copied from elsewhere as it's behind a paywall)
https://www.ft.com/content/301c847c-a31 ... 66933d423aThis is a thoroughly ridiculous way to manage a public health crisis and it boggles my mind at the lack of shared data and shared decision making going on here.The ability of local leaders to manage new coronavirus outbreaks in the UK is being hampered by gaps in the reporting of infection data for cities and regions, according to analysis by the Financial Times.
The government publishes a UK-wide figure for Covid-19 cases every day that includes tests from hospitals and those processed by commercial laboratories, including samples taken at home. But at a subnational level the total of new daily cases contains only hospital tests. The result is that hundreds of local authorities across the country are unable to see a timely picture of what is happening in their communities or compare that with other cities and regions of the UK.
This gap in the subnational and regional data has been cited by local political leaders and health officials in Leicester as one reason for a delay in locking down the east Midlands city, where virus cases have spiked. “For weeks we have been trying to get information about the level of testing in the city and the results of that testing in the city,” Peter Soulsby, mayor of Leicester, told the BBC on Tuesday. According to published data for Leicester, the city recorded just 80 new positive tests between June 13-26. But health secretary Matt Hancock revealed that there were in fact 944 as he announced the decision to tighten the lockdown in Leicester, closing non-essential shops and ordering schools to shut to all non-key worker pupils by Thursday.
Public Health England publishes a weekly breakdown of the two categories: tests from hospitals, known as pillar 1, and from commercial labs that process at-home and drive-through tests, known as pillar 2. While PHE releases full data for England’s nine main regions with a two-week delay, the areas are too big to give local authorities a useful picture of the situation in their communities.
Leicester city council’s public health department only received the elevated infection numbers cited by Mr Hancock last Thursday. They could not compare with places elsewhere because the so-called pillar 2 figures are only made available to officials in their own local authority area if they have signed the Data Protection Act. “I would wish that they had shared that [data] with us right from the start,” said Sir Peter, Leicester’s mayor. “And I wish they had taken a more speedy decision rather than leaving it 11 days. That's a long gap and a long time for the virus to spread.”
We voted them in, and they didn't exactly look a competent bunch when we did so. So pretty much we've done it to ourselvesfivepointer wrote:
We deserve better than this.
Well, if we all exercise judgement and common sense none of those mentioned about will be making much money over the weekend. And that’s likely to be the case ..... isn’t it?Galfon wrote:'Super Saturday' (*) ?..Police leave has been cancelled, so we can stay safe.
(* maybe for billy brewer, larry landlord, tommy taxman...
vinny virus et al.. )
Haven’t been tested. Is there any point if we had it back in feb?morepork wrote:Do you have antibodies?
