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Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:The problemwith your nalysis Sandy is that qite a lot of these statues wrre put up in the 60s as a deliberate fuck you to people who were just getting their rights. Having been erected with that intent there isn't an earthly reason for it. And even if it's an older statue, so fucking what? There's no airbrushing of history going on. The black communities of the USA are all too aware of the history of slavery and the war that half the country fought to keep it and live every day with the fact that they are still not equal citizens to their white counterparts. How far do you want to take this airbrushing argument? Do you think that Germany should have kept all its buildings laden with swastikas for fear of airbrushing history? Or were they right to erase symbols which every day spoke of oppression and caused offence?

I can take your argument to the other extreme. Plenty of people get offended by historical monuments, should we tear down Nelsons column over a possible upset to the French or anyone upset by British imperialism? Of course not. I'd rather build some statues to slaves in the south to balance things out. But unlike someone like Hitler (apologies) , lee doesn't have a huge ethical burden to overcome and would have been s hero to those defending their states, who didn't own slaves.

Seriously, if you don't get that Lee and others fighting for the right to keep slaves are in exactly the same moral pit as Hitler in characterising certain races as sub-human, then there's bugger all point in continuing. I'm out.

kk67 wrote:The main reason for tearing down Nelson's column would have to be that it is aesthetically a really terrible piece of art. It's monumentally shit.
Seriously,....WTF is it..?.

Sandydragon wrote: Part of me wonders if he is setting himself up to quit the job.

Digby wrote:Firing Gorka is a good decision, though no sane person would've hired him to begin with. He's just an angry prick with no solutions, which might be why Trump likes him

Sandydragon wrote:

Digby wrote:Firing Gorka is a good decision, though no sane person would've hired him to begin with. He's just an angry prick with no solutions, which might be why Trump likes him

Sums up most racists.

Mellsblue wrote:My Week: Donald Trump*

Monday
“Husband,” warns Melania, as we stand on the stage outside the White House to see the total eclipse, “do not look at sun.”

She forgets I have fantastic eyes. Very strong. The strongest. And two of them. Which is more than some people. And they both work! Stevie Wonder? Great guy, good friend. But the eyes? So sad. Unless that’s Lionel Richie. Either way, that’s never been my problem. Far from it. Perhaps I see too much? My physician said that if everybody had eyes like me, there would be no blindness in America. Fact. Bigly. Fact.

A little later she helps me walk down the stairs as I blink again and again and vaguely wonder how I’m going to read the teleprompter tonight for my Afghanistan speech.

“Oh husband,” she says. “If only had listened!”

“Mistakes,” I say, grimly, “were many on many sides, many sides.”

Melania asks if I mean by both me and the sun.

“Mainly the sun,” I say.


Tuesday
The family have come to see me in the Oval Office. Eric and Donald Jr are also both blinking a lot and stumbling into furniture. Ivanka and Jared can both still see perfectly. Jared says this is because they’re intellectuals.

I’m really busy, anyway. I’ve got a rally tonight in Arizona so I’m fine-tuning my speech. Jared says I should remind people about the wall. Donald Jr agrees and says he was watching Game of Thrones last night, and walls are definitely very important.

“Otherwise the White Walkers will come,” says Eric, gravely.

“But they sound like our kinda guys?” I say, trying to keep up.

“They have an army of wights,” says Donald Jr.

“Well, exactly,” I say.

Then he says we’re more Targaryen, and Ivanka says, “ugh”. Then Jared says, personally, he’s more Team Littlefinger.

“Buddy,” I say, pointing at him, “you’d better be.”


Wednesday
That was a great rally. Amazing crowd. The biggest! And I did remind them about the wall. Donald J Trump, I said, would be prepared to shut down the rest of my government in order to get it built. And suddenly, all sorts of new people seem to be in favour of it. Strange!

Obviously I condemned the White Walkers. I have disavowed their reanimation of the unburnt dead many times, many times. But Antifa? Just as bad. Terrible people. They attack our history! They pull down our statues! They block our sun. I saw! In fact, I still can. Although it’s getting better.

Will the Fake News Media report that? No. Such bad people. So dishonest. Probably they won’t even report me saying this. They’ll write a diary of my week, and leave out Wednesday altogether. These actual words will not be in your newspaper! You’ll see. Blank!


Thursday
Steve Bannon calls. I’ve cut him loose, but we’re still close. He’s gone back to Breitbart. Says it suits him. Only eating a couple of breakfast doughnuts, barely drinking meths at all. Real health kick. Anyway, he’s giving me a heads-up on a looming story about the wife of our Treasury Secretary.

“Steve McLovin?” I say.

“Yes,” says Bannon. “Wait. Is that his name? Doesn’t sound right.”

“Pretty sure,” I say.

“Whatever,” says Bannon. Then he says it’s a social media fuss.

Apparently she’s gone online and viciously attacked an ordinary American, straying way beyond normal conventions of decency, humility or respect for office.

“And this is a story why?” I ask, totally mystified.

“Actually,” says Bannon, “I don’t get it, either.”


Friday
Having breakfast with Melania when Ivanka and Jared drop by and say we need to talk about my Twitter feed.

“What, again?” I say.

Ivanka says it’s just that they’ve noticed I’ve retweeted this meme about “the Best Eclipse Ever!” which shows me eclipsing Barack Obama. And they’re worried it makes me look foolish, partly because the moon is smaller and less powerful, but also because the sun always comes back.

“It does?” I say, going over to the window.

“I just don’t understand how he’s your father,” says Jared.

“Quick!” shouts Melania. “Somebody make a pinhole camera!”

“Ow,” I say.
*according to Hugo Rifkind

Digby wrote:Firing Gorka is a good decision, though no sane person would've hired him to begin with. He's just an angry prick with no solutions, which might be why Trump likes him

kk67 wrote:

Digby wrote:Firing Gorka is a good decision, though no sane person would've hired him to begin with. He's just an angry prick with no solutions, which might be why Trump likes him

Political epiphany.