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Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:06 am
by Stones of granite
Lizard wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
Lizard wrote: Fiji will be ok. It's winter there too, so high 20s/low 30s at the most. Rain is common in that part of the country too.
That might be ok to a kiwi....
I said "ok", not "perfect."
You ever spent any time in Scotland? Folk here start collapsing in the street at 23C. The bitching about "the heat" starts at anything with a 2 in front of it.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:27 am
by Lizard
I spent a week or so in Glasgow around New Years 2000/01, went to every All Blacks match at Murrayfield 2005-2008, and did a short tour 2008/09.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:11 pm
by Stones of granite
Lizard wrote:I spent a week or so in Glasgow around New Years 2000/01, went to every All Blacks match at Murrayfield 2005-2008, and did a short tour 2008/09.
Cool, so you'll have an idea of the conditions during what we laughingly call "Summer". ie Identical to Spring and Autumn, but with more daylight.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:04 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Any idea when the squad is announced? I guess after the conclusion of the domestic season?

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:08 pm
by whatisthejava
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Any idea when the squad is announced? I guess after the conclusion of the domestic season?
wont be any surprises, they will take a slightly bigger group in case any players are on "standby"

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:40 pm
by hp18
whatisthejava wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Any idea when the squad is announced? I guess after the conclusion of the domestic season?
wont be any surprises, they will take a slightly bigger group in case any players are on "standby"
Java meet the Toonie tombola. Toonie tombola, poor innocent Java.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:41 pm
by hp18
OptimisticJock wrote:
Lizard wrote:
Big D wrote: Sky reporting as a midnight UK time ko
http://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/fi ... land/81369

Just thinking. We will be playing in some varying conditions alĺ tour. Roasting in Fiji and I assume warn and very humid in Singapore?
Fiji will be ok. It's winter there too, so high 20s/low 30s at the most. Rain is common in that part of the country too.
That might be ok to a kiwi....
They survived last time.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:45 pm
by Edinburgh in Exile
I hope Kinghorn gets a run.

See if he doesn't though... by fuck I'm going to support Australia... haha... Jesus, alright... that was childish even for me.

Wait...

Up yours Greg.

Right... I'm done.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:49 pm
by OptimisticJock
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:I hope Kinghorn gets a run.

See if he doesn't though... by fuck I'm going to support Australia... haha... Jesus, alright... that was childish even for me.

Wait...

Up yours Greg.

Right... I'm done.
:lol: ah I miss the rep button.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:29 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
whatisthejava wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:Any idea when the squad is announced? I guess after the conclusion of the domestic season?
wont be any surprises, they will take a slightly bigger group in case any players are on "standby"
They should be told to bugger off, we've got a job to do in Aus.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:35 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:I hope Kinghorn gets a run.

See if he doesn't though... by fuck I'm going to support Australia... haha... Jesus, alright... that was childish even for me.

Wait...

Up yours Greg.

Right... I'm done.
Not quite the same. You're actively supporting an institution that sneers at your country at every available opportunity. I won't support it and I'm sure many Scots share my views.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:06 pm
by Mikey Brown
Started trying to come up with this squad but really there's little to change beyond the size of the squad, the existing problems (3 and 8 particularly) and the gaps at 13/14/15.

1. Reid / Dell / Allan
2. Brown / Ford (is MacInally even getting any games? Can't he move back to 8 now?)
3. Fagerson / Welsh / Berghan or 43 year old Gavin Kerr?
4. Gray / Swinson
5. Gray / Toolis or Gilchrist
6. Barclay / Wilson
7. Watson (when we parachuting this Gibbins guy in?)
8. Strauss / Denton / Ashe (whoever is actually fit I guess)

9. Price / Laidlaw (would really like to see Laidlaw used from the bench)
10. Russell / Horne
11. Visser
12. Scott / Taylor
13. Dunbar / Grigg? (Is he qualified? These centres could be in any combination really but I'm concerned Dunbar may be a bit shagged out)
14. Maitland / Hoyland
15. Kinghorn

What a pointless task that that. Looking very thinly spread already without any injuries. Taylor can at least cover the 3/4s and Maitland fullback. I'm assuming Dicko/Nel are basically fucked forever.

Is Hughes ever likely to be good enough?

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:24 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Any particular reason you don't rate D'arcy Rae, MB? Many would have had him backing up Fagerson in the 6N. I preferred Welsh to Berghan but Rae is a superior player as well.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:36 pm
by Edinburgh in Exile
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:
Edinburgh in Exile wrote:I hope Kinghorn gets a run.

See if he doesn't though... by fuck I'm going to support Australia... haha... Jesus, alright... that was childish even for me.

Wait...

Up yours Greg.

Right... I'm done.
Not quite the same. You're actively supporting an institution that sneers at your country at every available opportunity. I won't support it and I'm sure many Scots share my views.
Ha, really? Ah Jesus, I was so sure that comparison was cast iron... come on cat man, lighten up you massive fanny.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:51 pm
by whatisthejava
Mikey Brown wrote:Started trying to come up with this squad but really there's little to change beyond the size of the squad, the existing problems (3 and 8 particularly) and the gaps at 13/14/15.

1. Reid / Dell / Allan
2. Brown / Ford (is MacInally even getting any games? Can't he move back to 8 now?)
3. Fagerson / Welsh / Berghan or 43 year old Gavin Kerr?
4. Gray / Swinson
5. Gray / Toolis or Gilchrist
6. Barclay / Wilson
7. Watson (when we parachuting this Gibbins guy in?)
8. Strauss / Denton / Ashe (whoever is actually fit I guess)

9. Price / Laidlaw (would really like to see Laidlaw used from the bench)
10. Russell / Horne
11. Visser
12. Scott / Taylor
13. Dunbar / Grigg? (Is he qualified? These centres could be in any combination really but I'm concerned Dunbar may be a bit shagged out)
14. Maitland / Hoyland
15. Kinghorn

What a pointless task that that. Looking very thinly spread already without any injuries. Taylor can at least cover the 3/4s and Maitland fullback. I'm assuming Dicko/Nel are basically fucked forever.

Is Hughes ever likely to be good enough?
You pretty much got them all, except for R Hughes, Jackson could cover FB

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:07 pm
by Mikey Brown
Forgot about Jackson. Which as a Quins fan is not something I want to be saying. He's been hit and miss even by his standards. I do happen to think he's quite a handy 15 though and more 10 cover may well be needed if Horne is one of our best centres.

The Hughes thing was a question really. I've seen him almost do great things a few times but never really convert. A decent, powerful winger would be brilliant for this side too.

On D'Arcy Rae I have nothing except I was drawing a blank and haven't seen a whole lot of him. Very conceivably is better than Berghan.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:08 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
whatisthejava wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:Started trying to come up with this squad but really there's little to change beyond the size of the squad, the existing problems (3 and 8 particularly) and the gaps at 13/14/15.

1. Reid / Dell / Allan
2. Brown / Ford (is MacInally even getting any games? Can't he move back to 8 now?)
3. Fagerson / Welsh / Berghan or 43 year old Gavin Kerr?
4. Gray / Swinson
5. Gray / Toolis or Gilchrist
6. Barclay / Wilson
7. Watson (when we parachuting this Gibbins guy in?)
8. Strauss / Denton / Ashe (whoever is actually fit I guess)

9. Price / Laidlaw (would really like to see Laidlaw used from the bench)
10. Russell / Horne
11. Visser
12. Scott / Taylor
13. Dunbar / Grigg? (Is he qualified? These centres could be in any combination really but I'm concerned Dunbar may be a bit shagged out)
14. Maitland / Hoyland
15. Kinghorn

What a pointless task that that. Looking very thinly spread already without any injuries. Taylor can at least cover the 3/4s and Maitland fullback. I'm assuming Dicko/Nel are basically fucked forever.

Is Hughes ever likely to be good enough?
You pretty much got them all, except for R Hughes, Jackson could cover FB
There's loads missing from that list. I reckon Ritchie, Cummings, Rae & L Jones will travel as well. Plenty more, I'm sure.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:19 pm
by Big D
I'm not sure Dunbar is ever an international 13 anymore.

He's at 12 for me.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:29 pm
by Mikey Brown
Big D wrote:I'm not sure Dunbar is ever an international 13 anymore.

He's at 12 for me.
I'm just in the habit of writing that I suppose. I still feel that's where he's played his absolute best but not sure if he is that same player anymore. I just feel a bit of acceleration is better at 12.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:20 am
by Lizard
So is this Aust/Scotland/Italy/Fiji round robin still officially a mini tournament or not, now that it's being played across 3 countries?

Re: RE: Re: Australia tour

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:33 am
by Big D
Lizard wrote:So is this Aust/Scotland/Italy/Fiji round robin still officially a mini tournament or not, now that it's being played across 3 countries?
Not seen it mentioned as 1 for a while.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:34 am
by Big D
Has anything been said about Kinghorns summer workload? SRU/VC sent Fagerson to the u20s last year so I wonder whether the same approach will happen.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:37 pm
by Cameo
Can't be bothered to go through the whole squads but just in terms of players that might be rated higher than before now townsend is in charge, I would say the main one just now would be Lee Jones. It is a position we are short in and he has been consistently good this year

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:48 pm
by OptimisticJock
Cameo wrote:Can't be bothered to go through the whole squads but just in terms of players that might be rated higher than before now townsend is in charge, I would say the main one just now would be Lee Jones. It is a position we are short in and he has been consistently good this year
I'd say for longer than this year.

Re: Australia tour

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:49 pm
by OptimisticJock
How old is George Horne?