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Does anyone know what these corporate psychopaths look like? For some reason I’ve got the song Warewolves of London in my head.

Sandydragon wrote:Does anyone know what these corporate psychopaths look like? For some reason I’ve got the song Warewolves of London in my head.

Is that where we're stockpiling all the food for Brexit?

Puja

Puja wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:Does anyone know what these corporate psychopaths look like? For some reason I’ve got the song Warewolves of London in my head.

Is that where we're stockpiling all the food for Brexit?

Puja

Judging from this thread, I’m more worried about where all those drugs are being kept.

Sandydragon wrote:Does anyone know what these corporate psychopaths look like? For some reason I’ve got the song Warewolves of London in my head.

They tend to be very brand and fashion conscious, and have a particular affinity for Huey Lewis and the News. Very nice business cards, though.

A true psycho would never offer retainers or fixed fees. The hourly rate is his friend. It means the less efficient he is the more he gets paid.

onlynameleft wrote:A true psycho would never offer retainers or fixed fees. The hourly rate is his friend. It means the less efficient he is the more he gets paid.

Well Merci, .....you tragic corporate victim.

I don't think a necessary reply is needed.

Wow. Reality is variable.

Here's why CEOs often have the traits of a psychopath



Anyone who has worked with a CEO may not be surprised that many of them have common personality traits such as charisma, fearlessness, and a cool head under stress.

However, while these sound like advantages, it has also been suggested that CEOs are more likely to be psychopaths.

According to Dr Tara Swart, neuroscientist, psychiatrist, and Neuroscientist in Residence at the Corinthia Hotel, psychopathy is a spectrum, and we all fall on it somewhere. However, what separates us from the psychopaths is the ability to feel empathy.

A psychopathic diagnosis requires a lot of boxes to be ticked, such as ruthlessness, narcissism, persuasiveness, the inability to feel guilt, or the inability to see things from another person's perspective.

They also have something called a "resilience to chaos."

"Psychopaths thrive on chaos, and they know other people find it very stressful," Swart said on Thursday at an event called The Dark Side of Leadership, held at The Corinthia. "They will purposefully create chaos in the environment because they find it easier to cope than other people."

Psychopaths make up roughly 1% of the population, but this is very much an estimate due to the complexity of the diagnosis. What is known is that they are found among a range of people, from con-men to world leaders, and up to 90% of prisoners show signs of psychopathy.

Nature vs. nurture

What makes some psychopaths successful and others turn to a life of crime is determined by a number of things.

IQ and education is one part of it, but it's important to note that the average IQ of serial killers is 94.7 — a fairly normal score. However, people who go down the dark road are less likely to have received a good education, and may have had traumatic family experiences.

The brain of a psychopath is also very immature. In fact, Swart showed a photo of the neuropathways of a typical psychopathic brain, and it functions similarly to a very immature, adolescent one. The limbic system — the part of the brain associated with bonding, emotion, and memory — in particular is damaged, and not at the stage it should be.

It's as though the part of the brain which holds your "pause button" didn't develop properly. Rather than pausing in situations to think about other people, psychopaths are more likely to make rash, impulsive decisions.

There is a theory that this could be a result of traumatic brain injury. Many serial killers experienced head injuries as a child, and about 72% had a problem with substance abuse.

Sociological differences can also trigger people in different ways. According to Swart, many psychopathic CEOs she has worked with were sent off to boarding school at a young age, and experienced institutionalised humiliation and violence during their time there.

Is there a cure?

"The way that I'd describe the spectrum of psychopathic traits is like knobs you can turn up and down," Swart said. "What tends to happen in lawyers and surgeons is they've turned up the ones that are really vital to being a good lawyer or surgeon and turned down the ones that aren't as helpful."

As a psychiatrist, Swart also worked with prisoners, and saw first-hand how rapists learned to have remorse for what they had done.

"If they could do that, absolutely, any CEO or leader who has a few traits can do something about it," she said. "It's difficult to unlearn habits that you've already got in your brain — it's better to overwrite them with new desired behaviours, and that's the style I take in my work."

However, the person has to realise they have a problem, or any attempts to make them better will have even less of a chance of working.

"You've got to be aware of it," Swart said. "Having a relationship of trust and a bond with someone can change everything. So, a coaching relationship should be one of trust, and it should be one where the person sees you demonstrate empathy, and wants to learn to do that for themselves."

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"Swart showed a photo of the neuropathways of a typical psychopathic brain"

was it a Polaroid?

“Knobs you can turn up or down”. I wish we could.

onlynameleft wrote:“Knobs you can turn up or down”. I wish we could.

Everyone has a film script and a novel in them.
My film script is a bastardization of a Douglas Adams concept where the middle management, hairdressers and Landscape gardeners are transported to a distant planet.
In my version, we con the psychopaths into getting on the spaceship.

...and Earth becomes Nirvana.
Welcome. Take yer shoes off.

Here's a funny thing.
Jose gets a one year prison sentence (suspended) for tax evasion. But the story has disappeared from the mainstream media.
Mind you,.... the revelation that the Queen was evading tax in offshore havens also disappeared a bit sharpish.

Poor old Lester Piggot must be spitting feathers.

Buggaluggs wrote:

Is that Dale Winton (Rip)?

Philip Green, colour me totally unsurprised, the man has been toxic for years. Any pension pot raider must have some psychopathic traits.

Just watching David Starkey on Politicslive claiming that David Hain is a second rate politician desperately seeking attention.
Laugh..?...I nearly shat.

kk67 wrote:Philip Green, colour me totally unsurprised, the man has been toxic for years. Any pension pot raider must have some psychopathic traits.

Just watching David Starkey on Politicslive claiming that David Hain is a second rate politician desperately seeking attention.
Laugh..?...I nearly shat.

Agree completely about Green but it does seems a wholesale abuse of Parliamentary privilege to reveal this in the face of the injunction, especially given that Hain is a paid advisor to the Telegraph's solicitors firm.
Whole thing is a shambles.

Is David Hain the chap I know as Peter Hain?

Not a great look for Hain that at best it never occurred to him to check for a conflict of interest, then again in this instance the NDAs seem to have been used to cover up things that one feels specifically shouldn't be covered by NDAs, overall there seems some fault on all sides but this doesn’t imo raise concerns over parliamentary privilege

I find it very difficult to believe that he wasn’t fully aware of the position, Gordon Dadds isn’t a particularly large firm. So, Court of Appeal makes a ruling Green should not be identified and the Telegraph can’t print their article. Advisor to Telegraph’s law firm then identifies him in Parliament, papers can then report his identity. Whether you agree with the original Court decision or not it completely undermines the separation of powers. The Court made a ruling he should not be named, rightly or wrongly. Parliamentary privilege was intended so that things could be said privately in Parliament, it wasn’t intended to be a way to sidestep injunctions by bringing proscribed information into the public domain by the back door.
Now don’t get me wrong, I am not at all comfortable with the Court decision but they had all the info and it would have been considered long and hard. This was also an appeal from the lower Court who had refused the injunction. But nor am I comfortable with the fact that someone can sign an NDA, take the money and then ignore the NDA. I’m not sure if there are suggestions that a criminal offence or offences have been committed, I suspect not. But if someone of their own free will enters into one then they should expect to be bound by it. I’ve not seen any suggestion that they were signed under duress, I’m sure if there was evidence of that then it would have been before the Court.

Why can't we allow the court ruled according to the law and a member of parliament doesn't like how the law works, especially when such process is only available to those with significant means?

onlynameleft wrote:

kk67 wrote:Philip Green, colour me totally unsurprised, the man has been toxic for years. Any pension pot raider must have some psychopathic traits.

Just watching David Starkey on Politicslive claiming that David Hain is a second rate politician desperately seeking attention.
Laugh..?...I nearly shat.

Agree completely about Green but it does seems a wholesale abuse of Parliamentary privilege to reveal this in the face of the injunction, especially given that Hain is a paid advisor to the Telegraph's solicitors firm.
Whole thing is a shambles.

I agree. Again, not much sympathy for Green. But, should parliamentarians be discussing names who have not been found guilty? It’s easy on this instance to feel no sympathy for Green, but imagine it’s someone less odious, what right do they have to respond or seek redress?

Sandydragon wrote:

onlynameleft wrote:

kk67 wrote:Philip Green, colour me totally unsurprised, the man has been toxic for years. Any pension pot raider must have some psychopathic traits.

Just watching David Starkey on Politicslive claiming that David Hain is a second rate politician desperately seeking attention.
Laugh..?...I nearly shat.

Agree completely about Green but it does seems a wholesale abuse of Parliamentary privilege to reveal this in the face of the injunction, especially given that Hain is a paid advisor to the Telegraph's solicitors firm.
Whole thing is a shambles.

I agree. Again, not much sympathy for Green. But, should parliamentarians be discussing names who have not been found guilty? It’s easy on this instance to feel no sympathy for Green, but imagine it’s someone less odious, what right do they have to respond or seek redress?

Not been found guilty? I think that when you get your staff to sign a non disclosure agreement you are basically admitting your guilt.

As to whether or not Peter Hain should have given away Green’s identity, I don’t have an issue with it. Green has signed 7 figure ndas apparently. Anyone have any idea how much it costs to take out an injunction in the high court? “Justice” should be available to people equally regardless of wealth. Especially when the wealth in question comes money that was never taxed in this country.