Right wing terrorist attack in NZ

[OptimisticJock]

You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.

[twitchy]

Listen to this woman (completely sfw).




Then look at this c.unt (he is doing the nazi hand sign).

[Digby]

You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.

Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.

Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.

[Digby]

As an aside the thread has rather veered somewhat, no doubt there are any number of reasons to criticise my character failings, but for anyone actually offended on behalf of those murdered and injured there's a case this isn't the place for that.

[twitchy]

Just re reading the thread.

Digby I would just stop posting honestly. The only people who found this funny were on 8chan watching the live stream.

[canta_brian]

You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.

Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.

Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.

Are you seriously trying to reclaim the moral high ground?

What a piece of shit you are.

[Galfon]

As much as the slightest hint of sentiment towards 'what did they expect?', 'only matter of time' (given the number of warped extreme characters with access to guns & instant global exposure), 'reap what you sow' etc..
given the base primal horror of this event and number of innocents murdered, Digby's comments appear cold and misplaced on this organ.
The great danger now is the copycat/emboldening of others with similar mindsets that often occurs with certain criminal acts.The recent muslim diaspora will be
preparing for a new chapter of dealing with integration challenges in Western cultures.

[Sandydragon]

As much as the slightest hint of sentiment towards 'what did they expect?', 'only matter of time' (given the number of warped extreme characters with access to guns & instant global exposure), 'reap what you sow' etc..
given the base primal horror of this event and number of innocents murdered, Digby's comments appear cold and misplaced on this organ.
The great danger now is the copycat/emboldening of others with similar mindsets that often occurs with certain criminal acts.The recent muslim diaspora will be
preparing for a new chapter of dealing with integration challenges in Western cultures.

This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.

[Galfon]

This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.

referring to the abominable characters that involve themselves in these acts, the original posts reacting to them or the last comment itself ?

[Sandydragon]

This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.

referring to the abominable characters that involve themselves in these acts, the original posts reacting to them or the last comment itself ?

The perpetrators of the act. We all have our opinions but those who perform these despicable acts are very much in a class of their own.

[Digby]

This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.

referring to the abominable characters that involve themselves in these acts, the original posts reacting to them or the last comment itself ?

The perpetrators of the act. We all have our opinions but those who perform these despicable acts are very much in a class of their own.

Very much so, Trump is an arse for again failing to address white pride in suitably fashion, but it's as nothing next to the actual attack

[Which Tyler]

Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?

[Stom]

I would hold politicians and media responsible for this. They're the ones spreading hate and making the thoughts that led to this attack seem normal.

Disgusting.

And I live in a country where far right tendencies are always boiling under the surface, mainly due to years of oppression.

But it's not them who are the problem, it's the people who have lived with a comparatively silver spoon, who have not faced much hardship in their lives, and who feel emboldened by the current climate to blame their failings on an oppressed group in society.

Which brings us back full circle to politicians and their grasping of power rather than attempts to deal with major sociological problems being brought to a head by increased inequality.

[Digby]

Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?

He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right

[morepork]

Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?

He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right

No he fucking did not. Just like with Pittsburgh, he deflected, downplayed it, and refused to name it for what it was. The press here are all over for him for not calling it out, because it is at least the third time he has downplayed terrorism by a white person. When he gets wind of an act perpetrated by a non-white person, anywhere in the world, he is all over it, labeling immediately as an immigration problem. It is too clear a pattern to not be endemic in him. The day before Chch, Trump was on record saying that his right-wing anti-immigration base was full of people that were well hard and could react badly if fired up by opposition to their ideals.

You need to pull your head out of your arse Digby.

[Digby]

Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?

He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right

No he fucking did not. Just like with Pittsburgh, he deflected, downplayed it, and refused to name it for what it was. The press here are all over for him for not calling it out, because it is at least the third time he has downplayed terrorism by a white person. When he gets wind of an act perpetrated by a non-white person, anywhere in the world, he is all over it, labeling immediately as an immigration problem. It is too clear a pattern to not be endemic in him. The day before Chch, Trump was on record saying that his right-wing anti-immigration base was full of people that were well hard and could react badly if fired up by opposition to their ideals.

You need to pull your head out of your arse Digby.

The quotes I saw from him used the words monstrous, evil and things of a similar ilk. He may have made other comments I've not seen, it's not like I'm desperate to chase down all his word salad contributions to the world, but it didn’t strike me as odd he was using terms like evil. So whilst I'm far from an apologist for Trump on the simple question of condemnation of the attack he spoke sufficiently based on the quotes I saw attributed to him

[Digby]

After a complex Internet search using the words Donald and Trump even CNN aren't saying he didn't condemn the attack

https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ ... index.html

[morepork]

I'm not getting in the mud with you over this. Dig a little deeper and check out his initial response on twitter, since deleted.

Enough.

[Mikey Brown]

Jesus this thread is depressing.

And that’s not simply another dig at Digby.

[Digby]

I'm not getting in the mud with you over this. Dig a little deeper and check out his initial response on twitter, since deleted.

Enough.

Ah, I don't follow him (anyone actually) on Twitter so that would have passed me by

[morepork]

I'm calling bullshit on that. It's all over the media.

[Digby]

I'm calling bullshit on that. It's all over the media.

Not in the rugby section it's not

[Banquo]

Reading this with a great degree of sadness and distaste. However, the real sadness is the tragedy for the victims, family, community and country,

[morepork]

There is a very intense conversation gathering momentum here regarding the seeming ease with which domestic terrorism blind sides the authorities. At the moment it is still not as loud as the dog whistle immigration fiasco, but it's getting louder. From speaking with Whanau in Christchurch, it seems that conversation is centre stage there too. I hate that it has taken this event to get that issue out in the open, especially as the city has had a lot of issues with the dog whistle shit for a long time.

[OptimisticJock]

You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.

Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.

Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.

get tae fuck