Digby wrote:It's a disgusting act, though I confess a small part of my reaction was 'hah' and whilst that isn't helpful and perhaps doesn't speak well to my character I doubt I'd be the only one.
Now that, is fucking terrible!
What, responding in part to horrible situations with gallows humour or simply unacceptable humour? I'd reiterate again it was a disgusting act, but it's just not going to be the case that 100% of the response from 100% of the people is entirely informed by compassion and virtue.
Yes, 49 people are now dead because they had the rotten luck of practicing their faith at the same time as some nazi shitfuck who felt entitled to take their lives. HILARIOUS! Are we laughing yet?
You might want to shut the fuck up now before you make yourself look like an even bigger cunt.
I'm a god
How can you kill a god?
Shame on you, sweet Nerevar
OptimisticJock wrote:You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.
Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.
As an aside the thread has rather veered somewhat, no doubt there are any number of reasons to criticise my character failings, but for anyone actually offended on behalf of those murdered and injured there's a case this isn't the place for that.
OptimisticJock wrote:You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.
Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.
Are you seriously trying to reclaim the moral high ground?
As much as the slightest hint of sentiment towards 'what did they expect?', 'only matter of time' (given the number of warped extreme characters with access to guns & instant global exposure), 'reap what you sow' etc..
given the base primal horror of this event and number of innocents murdered, Digby's comments appear cold and misplaced on this organ.
The great danger now is the copycat/emboldening of others with similar mindsets that often occurs with certain criminal acts.The recent muslim diaspora will be
preparing for a new chapter of dealing with integration challenges in Western cultures.
OptimisticJock wrote:You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.
Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.
Fuck off, cunt.
I'm a god
How can you kill a god?
Shame on you, sweet Nerevar
Galfon wrote:As much as the slightest hint of sentiment towards 'what did they expect?', 'only matter of time' (given the number of warped extreme characters with access to guns & instant global exposure), 'reap what you sow' etc..
given the base primal horror of this event and number of innocents murdered, Digby's comments appear cold and misplaced on this organ.
The great danger now is the copycat/emboldening of others with similar mindsets that often occurs with certain criminal acts.The recent muslim diaspora will be
preparing for a new chapter of dealing with integration challenges in Western cultures.
This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.
I would hold politicians and media responsible for this. They're the ones spreading hate and making the thoughts that led to this attack seem normal.
Disgusting.
And I live in a country where far right tendencies are always boiling under the surface, mainly due to years of oppression.
But it's not them who are the problem, it's the people who have lived with a comparatively silver spoon, who have not faced much hardship in their lives, and who feel emboldened by the current climate to blame their failings on an oppressed group in society.
Which brings us back full circle to politicians and their grasping of power rather than attempts to deal with major sociological problems being brought to a head by increased inequality.
Which Tyler wrote:Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?
He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right
No he fucking did not. Just like with Pittsburgh, he deflected, downplayed it, and refused to name it for what it was. The press here are all over for him for not calling it out, because it is at least the third time he has downplayed terrorism by a white person. When he gets wind of an act perpetrated by a non-white person, anywhere in the world, he is all over it, labeling immediately as an immigration problem. It is too clear a pattern to not be endemic in him. The day before Chch, Trump was on record saying that his right-wing anti-immigration base was full of people that were well hard and could react badly if fired up by opposition to their ideals.
You need to pull your head out of your arse Digby.
Which Tyler wrote:Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?
He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right
No he fucking did not. Just like with Pittsburgh, he deflected, downplayed it, and refused to name it for what it was. The press here are all over for him for not calling it out, because it is at least the third time he has downplayed terrorism by a white person. When he gets wind of an act perpetrated by a non-white person, anywhere in the world, he is all over it, labeling immediately as an immigration problem. It is too clear a pattern to not be endemic in him. The day before Chch, Trump was on record saying that his right-wing anti-immigration base was full of people that were well hard and could react badly if fired up by opposition to their ideals.
You need to pull your head out of your arse Digby.
The quotes I saw from him used the words monstrous, evil and things of a similar ilk. He may have made other comments I've not seen, it's not like I'm desperate to chase down all his word salad contributions to the world, but it didn’t strike me as odd he was using terms like evil. So whilst I'm far from an apologist for Trump on the simple question of condemnation of the attack he spoke sufficiently based on the quotes I saw attributed to him
