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Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 9:00 pm
by cashead
Digby wrote:Which Tyler wrote:Digby wrote:It's a disgusting act, though I confess a small part of my reaction was 'hah' and whilst that isn't helpful and perhaps doesn't speak well to my character I doubt I'd be the only one.
Now that, is fucking terrible!
What, responding in part to horrible situations with gallows humour or simply unacceptable humour? I'd reiterate again it was a disgusting act, but it's just not going to be the case that 100% of the response from 100% of the people is entirely informed by compassion and virtue.
Yes, 49 people are now dead because they had the rotten luck of practicing their faith at the same time as some nazi shitfuck who felt entitled to take their lives. HILARIOUS! Are we laughing yet?
You might want to shut the fuck up now before you make yourself look like an even bigger cunt.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:05 pm
by OptimisticJock
You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:10 am
by cashead
Seriously, Digby. This is you in this thread.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:14 am
by twitchy
Listen to this woman (completely sfw).
Then look at this c.unt (he is doing the nazi hand sign).
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:40 am
by Digby
OptimisticJock wrote:You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.
Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:45 am
by Digby
As an aside the thread has rather veered somewhat, no doubt there are any number of reasons to criticise my character failings, but for anyone actually offended on behalf of those murdered and injured there's a case this isn't the place for that.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:04 am
by twitchy
Just re reading the thread.
Digby I would just stop posting honestly. The only people who found this funny were on 8chan watching the live stream.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:47 am
by canta_brian
Digby wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.
Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.
Are you seriously trying to reclaim the moral high ground?
What a piece of shit you are.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:21 am
by Galfon
As much as the slightest hint of sentiment towards 'what did they expect?', 'only matter of time' (given the number of warped extreme characters with access to guns & instant global exposure), 'reap what you sow' etc..
given the base primal horror of this event and number of innocents murdered, Digby's comments appear cold and misplaced on this organ.
The great danger now is the copycat/emboldening of others with similar mindsets that often occurs with certain criminal acts.The recent muslim diaspora will be
preparing for a new chapter of dealing with integration challenges in Western cultures.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:25 am
by cashead
Digby wrote:OptimisticJock wrote:You can back peddle and attempt to dress it up however you want, it's not gallows humour. It's a shit cunt just being a shit cunt.
Not that I'd want to prohibit what language can be used but this actually does bother me, not the being rude to me part that’s at most going to make me chortle, but the use of the word cunt as a pejorative being based as it is on the notion there's something wrong with vaginas and by extension women.
Though I say that knowing full well I'm a big Peter Cook fan and cunt isn't a term he ever worried about using.
Fuck off, cunt.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:50 am
by Sandydragon
Galfon wrote:As much as the slightest hint of sentiment towards 'what did they expect?', 'only matter of time' (given the number of warped extreme characters with access to guns & instant global exposure), 'reap what you sow' etc..
given the base primal horror of this event and number of innocents murdered, Digby's comments appear cold and misplaced on this organ.
The great danger now is the copycat/emboldening of others with similar mindsets that often occurs with certain criminal acts.The recent muslim diaspora will be
preparing for a new chapter of dealing with integration challenges in Western cultures.
This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:07 am
by Galfon
Sandydragon wrote:
This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.
referring to the abominable characters that involve themselves in these acts, the original posts reacting to them or the last comment itself ?
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:29 am
by Sandydragon
Galfon wrote:Sandydragon wrote:
This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.
referring to the abominable characters that involve themselves in these acts, the original posts reacting to them or the last comment itself ?
The perpetrators of the act. We all have our opinions but those who perform these despicable acts are very much in a class of their own.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:07 pm
by Digby
Sandydragon wrote:Galfon wrote:Sandydragon wrote:
This demonstrates that there are some seriously messed up people in all societies.
referring to the abominable characters that involve themselves in these acts, the original posts reacting to them or the last comment itself ?
The perpetrators of the act. We all have our opinions but those who perform these despicable acts are very much in a class of their own.
Very much so, Trump is an arse for again failing to address white pride in suitably fashion, but it's as nothing next to the actual attack
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:08 pm
by Which Tyler
Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:29 pm
by Stom
I would hold politicians and media responsible for this. They're the ones spreading hate and making the thoughts that led to this attack seem normal.
Disgusting.
And I live in a country where far right tendencies are always boiling under the surface, mainly due to years of oppression.
But it's not them who are the problem, it's the people who have lived with a comparatively silver spoon, who have not faced much hardship in their lives, and who feel emboldened by the current climate to blame their failings on an oppressed group in society.
Which brings us back full circle to politicians and their grasping of power rather than attempts to deal with major sociological problems being brought to a head by increased inequality.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:42 pm
by Digby
Which Tyler wrote:Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?
He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:58 pm
by morepork
Digby wrote:Which Tyler wrote:Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?
He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right
No he fucking did not. Just like with Pittsburgh, he deflected, downplayed it, and refused to name it for what it was. The press here are all over for him for not calling it out, because it is at least the third time he has downplayed terrorism by a white person. When he gets wind of an act perpetrated by a non-white person, anywhere in the world, he is all over it, labeling immediately as an immigration problem. It is too clear a pattern to not be endemic in him. The day before Chch, Trump was on record saying that his right-wing anti-immigration base was full of people that were well hard and could react badly if fired up by opposition to their ideals.
You need to pull your head out of your arse Digby.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:15 pm
by Digby
morepork wrote:Digby wrote:Which Tyler wrote:Speaking of Trump - has he actually condemned it yet? Or just sent his condolences?
He did condemn it, and clearly. But in answer to a follow up question stated there wasn't a problem with the rise of a problematic far right
No he fucking did not. Just like with Pittsburgh, he deflected, downplayed it, and refused to name it for what it was. The press here are all over for him for not calling it out, because it is at least the third time he has downplayed terrorism by a white person. When he gets wind of an act perpetrated by a non-white person, anywhere in the world, he is all over it, labeling immediately as an immigration problem. It is too clear a pattern to not be endemic in him. The day before Chch, Trump was on record saying that his right-wing anti-immigration base was full of people that were well hard and could react badly if fired up by opposition to their ideals.
You need to pull your head out of your arse Digby.
The quotes I saw from him used the words monstrous, evil and things of a similar ilk. He may have made other comments I've not seen, it's not like I'm desperate to chase down all his word salad contributions to the world, but it didn’t strike me as odd he was using terms like evil. So whilst I'm far from an apologist for Trump on the simple question of condemnation of the attack he spoke sufficiently based on the quotes I saw attributed to him
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:20 pm
by Digby
After a complex Internet search using the words Donald and Trump even CNN aren't saying he didn't condemn the attack
https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.org/ ... index.html
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:22 pm
by morepork
I'm not getting in the mud with you over this. Dig a little deeper and check out his initial response on twitter, since deleted.
Enough.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:25 pm
by Mikey Brown
Jesus this thread is depressing.
And that’s not simply another dig at Digby.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:33 pm
by Digby
morepork wrote:I'm not getting in the mud with you over this. Dig a little deeper and check out his initial response on twitter, since deleted.
Enough.
Ah, I don't follow him (anyone actually) on Twitter so that would have passed me by
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:38 pm
by morepork
I'm calling bullshit on that. It's all over the media.
Re: Right wing terrorist attack in NZ
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:21 pm
by Digby
morepork wrote:I'm calling bullshit on that. It's all over the media.
Not in the rugby section it's not