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Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:00 pm
by Ross. S
Puja wrote:
Ross. S wrote:So according to lassen.co.nz the only way Wales can lose #1 tomorrow is to lose by 15 or more, is that correct?
No, they're talking toot. Any loss sees you back down to #2, although a draw is good enough to keep you top. A >15 loss would see you drop below Ireland into 3rd.

Puja
So is their calculator no longer accurate then?

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:21 pm
by Puja
Ross. S wrote:
Puja wrote:
Ross. S wrote:So according to lassen.co.nz the only way Wales can lose #1 tomorrow is to lose by 15 or more, is that correct?
No, they're talking toot. Any loss sees you back down to #2, although a draw is good enough to keep you top. A >15 loss would see you drop below Ireland into 3rd.

Puja
So is their calculator no longer accurate then?

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php
Seems to be working okay to me. Home team of 86.27, away team of 89.96 and a home win by 1-15 sees you drop to 88.89, which is less than the 89.04 now held by New Zealand. I think you must have a number wrong somewhere.

I use this one, which is nice and automated and makes me seem smarter than I am: https://rawling.github.io/wr-calc/

Puja

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:28 pm
by Ross. S
Puja wrote:
Ross. S wrote:
Puja wrote:
No, they're talking toot. Any loss sees you back down to #2, although a draw is good enough to keep you top. A >15 loss would see you drop below Ireland into 3rd.

Puja
So is their calculator no longer accurate then?

http://www.lassen.co.nz/pagmisc.php
Seems to be working okay to me. Home team of 86.27, away team of 89.96 and a home win by 1-15 sees you drop to 88.89, which is less than the 89.04 now held by New Zealand. I think you must have a number wrong somewhere.

I use this one, which is nice and automated and makes me seem smarter than I am: https://rawling.github.io/wr-calc/

Puja
I had the numbers correct but I was reading them from the world rankings page on wiki, someone had switched NZ and Wales but not recalculated NZ's new numbers so was reading Wales's ranking points as 91.xx. Its been fixed now so all is good.

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:05 pm
by Puja
Just done the numbers for a thread on the General board and spotted that, regardless of what NZ do to Australia, the gap is now so close that you will go to #1 with any victory over England. However, lose to us by 15+ and we go top. Bit of stakes for a warm-up!

Puja

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:12 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote:Just done the numbers for a thread on the General board and spotted that, regardless of what NZ do to Australia, the gap is now so close that you will go to #1 with any victory over England. However, lose to us by 15+ and we go top. Bit of stakes for a warm-up!

Puja
Yeah, this doesn't surprise me (although I haven't had time to put the numbers into a spreadsheet to check).

Presumably England, Ireland, Wales or NZ could end up at No.1 by the end of these "friendlies" depending how the results go.

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:53 pm
by Puja
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Puja wrote:Just done the numbers for a thread on the General board and spotted that, regardless of what NZ do to Australia, the gap is now so close that you will go to #1 with any victory over England. However, lose to us by 15+ and we go top. Bit of stakes for a warm-up!

Puja
Yeah, this doesn't surprise me (although I haven't had time to put the numbers into a spreadsheet to check).

Presumably England, Ireland, Wales or NZ could end up at No.1 by the end of these "friendlies" depending how the results go.
Heck, it's possible for any of those four to be top by the end of this weekend, dependant on results!

Puja

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:30 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Puja wrote:Just done the numbers for a thread on the General board and spotted that, regardless of what NZ do to Australia, the gap is now so close that you will go to #1 with any victory over England. However, lose to us by 15+ and we go top. Bit of stakes for a warm-up!

Puja
Yeah, this doesn't surprise me (although I haven't had time to put the numbers into a spreadsheet to check).

Presumably England, Ireland, Wales or NZ could end up at No.1 by the end of these "friendlies" depending how the results go.
Heck, it's possible for any of those four to be top by the end of this weekend, dependant on results!

Puja
With warm-ups like these, who needs a world cup??

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:48 pm
by Renniks
Son of Mathonwy wrote:
Puja wrote:
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Yeah, this doesn't surprise me (although I haven't had time to put the numbers into a spreadsheet to check).

Presumably England, Ireland, Wales or NZ could end up at No.1 by the end of these "friendlies" depending how the results go.
Heck, it's possible for any of those four to be top by the end of this weekend, dependant on results!

Puja
With warm-ups like these, who needs a world cup??
If England win by 16 this weekend, I might be in a position where I'm agreeing with this ;)

Re: No longer 2nd?

Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:17 am
by Son of Mathonwy
They should shut down the ranking algorithm now that it's finally delivered the correct answer. :)