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Raggs wrote:

Danno wrote:

Spiffy wrote:It might just work if an adventurous coach were willing to give a fast, powerful forward like Sam Simmonds a gallop at the opposition in midfield towards the end of the game, but don't see that as a deliberate tactic in the game plan.

If he or someone similar like Earl ever got the odd cameo there at their club I might be ok with the idea that they could do 10mins of a test in the centre, but on its own it's what happened with [redacted].

He didn't know how to play union whether in the forwards or backs. A quick backrow spending time in the midfield isn't going to be the end of the world if required in an emergency. It's also why for me, whoever is in the 23 shirt, doesn't get on the pitch outside of injury, or 5 minutes left in the game.

Is this whole conversation talking about the 1 non-scrumhalf spot on a 6:2 bench now?

Mikey Brown wrote:

Raggs wrote:

Danno wrote:
If he or someone similar like Earl ever got the odd cameo there at their club I might be ok with the idea that they could do 10mins of a test in the centre, but on its own it's what happened with [redacted].

He didn't know how to play union whether in the forwards or backs. A quick backrow spending time in the midfield isn't going to be the end of the world if required in an emergency. It's also why for me, whoever is in the 23 shirt, doesn't get on the pitch outside of injury, or 5 minutes left in the game.

Is this whole conversation talking about the 1 non-scrumhalf spot on a 6:2 bench now?

Of course. Keep up

Mikey Brown wrote:

Raggs wrote:

Danno wrote:
If he or someone similar like Earl ever got the odd cameo there at their club I might be ok with the idea that they could do 10mins of a test in the centre, but on its own it's what happened with [redacted].

He didn't know how to play union whether in the forwards or backs. A quick backrow spending time in the midfield isn't going to be the end of the world if required in an emergency. It's also why for me, whoever is in the 23 shirt, doesn't get on the pitch outside of injury, or 5 minutes left in the game.

Is this whole conversation talking about the 1 non-scrumhalf spot on a 6:2 bench now?

Give it a day or so and I'm sure it'll move onto if a backrower is able to cover centres and wing, so we can get Earls, Simmonds, Dombrandt and one of the Wasps brothers on the bench.

16th man wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:

Raggs wrote:
He didn't know how to play union whether in the forwards or backs. A quick backrow spending time in the midfield isn't going to be the end of the world if required in an emergency. It's also why for me, whoever is in the 23 shirt, doesn't get on the pitch outside of injury, or 5 minutes left in the game.

Is this whole conversation talking about the 1 non-scrumhalf spot on a 6:2 bench now?

Give it a day or so and I'm sure it'll move onto if a backrower is able to cover centres and wing, so we can get Earls, Simmonds, Dombrandt and one of the Wasps brothers on the bench.

You mean we could have a bench of Genge, Blamire, Stuart, Launch, Dombrandt, Simmonds, Earl, Quirke

Stom wrote:

16th man wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:
Is this whole conversation talking about the 1 non-scrumhalf spot on a 6:2 bench now?

Give it a day or so and I'm sure it'll move onto if a backrower is able to cover centres and wing, so we can get Earls, Simmonds, Dombrandt and one of the Wasps brothers on the bench.

You mean we could have a bench of Genge, Blamire, Stuart, Launch, Dombrandt, Simmonds, Earl, Quirke

Replace Blamire with Barbeary when he's fit and we're finally at a sensible bench mix.

Surely you need Jack Nowell to cover flanker

I think if I was Malins, I'd be clamouring to play on the wing in club matches. If Steward has nailed the 15 shirt, it's Malins best chance of starting for England. He must fear being a utility bench option otherwise. Somebody - him, Furbank, Mallinder or whoever - is bound to get the slot in a 6:2 bench. Malins has the pace to offer three positions, wing, FB and FH, so he could be earmarked. The others might push Marchant or Tuilagi back out to the wing should a starting winger get injured.

Lozowski just might be a good call, p/d.

Mallinder? I mean theoretically him and Lozowski would be the best in terms of coverage, but it feels like AL is another victim of Japan 2018 and Mallinder hasn't got even close to rounding his game out enough for a shot.

God knows why we're even discussing 7:1 though. There really is a void when an international window closes.

Mikey Brown wrote:God knows why we're even discussing 7:1 though. There really is a void when an international window closes.

I mean, Eddie was talking about BCurry coveting scrumhalf at one point, so we don't have to stop at 7:1...

Puja

Spiffy wrote: You want three backs on the bench ; a proper 9, a proper 10 and a utility back to cover the rest. Your example of Daly is a good one.

You want cover at 9, 10 and 15. The more that comes in the starting XV the more your bench can include an out and out X factor, be it pace, power or both, and the more you can have cover at centre to enable a change in the front three to cater for the collisions taken during the game to that point. In advance you don't need to be prescriptive about what the bench needs

I'll also repeat myself and say if coaches are picking 6:2 splits it's another good reason to drop the bench slots down to 7

Lightly oiled Iroko with a curvaceous back

Good god man, you'll have the greens all over you for that. Perhaps you meant reclaimed iroko?

Digby wrote:Good god man, you'll have the greens all over you for that. Perhaps you meant reclaimed iroko?

Why have green top milk when blue top is so much better

p/d wrote:

Digby wrote:Good god man, you'll have the greens all over you for that. Perhaps you meant reclaimed iroko?

Why have green top milk when blue top is so much better

As a non fan of milk the blue top actually stands a chance of getting me to vomit. Don't know why as I really like cheese, but I also really dislike milk.

There's a chap I work with who goes so far the other way he makes tea, well spicy chai, using creamy buffalo milk heated in the microwave and no added water

Oakboy please do the right thing and delete this thread.

6 parts water 2 parts full fat.

Mikey Brown wrote:Oakboy please do the right thing and delete this thread.

They have to have their fun occasionally, bless them!

Mikey Brown wrote:
God knows why we're even discussing 7:1 though. There really is a void when an international window closes.

Because we're kink positive and are supportive of those members of our community for whom this is a fetish.

16th man wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:
God knows why we're even discussing 7:1 though. There really is a void when an international window closes.

Because we're kink positive and are supportive of those members of our community for whom this is a fetish.

Digby wrote:

Spiffy wrote: You want three backs on the bench ; a proper 9, a proper 10 and a utility back to cover the rest. Your example of Daly is a good one.

You want cover at 9, 10 and 15. The more that comes in the starting XV the more your bench can include an out and out X factor, be it pace, power or both, and the more you can have cover at centre to enable a change in the front three to cater for the collisions taken during the game to that point. In advance you don't need to be prescriptive about what the bench needs

I'll also repeat myself and say if coaches are picking 6:2 splits it's another good reason to drop the bench slots down to 7

This is a great chance for Jones to convert George Ford to 9. He is already a brilliant 10 and with his rugby smarts, pass, speed and kicking game you know he'd be a great 9. Two for the price of one! The Frogs used to do it all the time.

Spiffy wrote:

Digby wrote:

Spiffy wrote: You want three backs on the bench ; a proper 9, a proper 10 and a utility back to cover the rest. Your example of Daly is a good one.

You want cover at 9, 10 and 15. The more that comes in the starting XV the more your bench can include an out and out X factor, be it pace, power or both, and the more you can have cover at centre to enable a change in the front three to cater for the collisions taken during the game to that point. In advance you don't need to be prescriptive about what the bench needs

I'll also repeat myself and say if coaches are picking 6:2 splits it's another good reason to drop the bench slots down to 7

This is a great chance for Jones to convert George Ford to 9. He is already a brilliant 10 and with his rugby smarts, pass, speed and kicking game you know he'd be a great 9. Two for the price of one! The Frogs used to do it all the time.

Nice try, but I doubt anyone is going to bite on that

Spiffy wrote:

Digby wrote:

Spiffy wrote: You want three backs on the bench ; a proper 9, a proper 10 and a utility back to cover the rest. Your example of Daly is a good one.

You want cover at 9, 10 and 15. The more that comes in the starting XV the more your bench can include an out and out X factor, be it pace, power or both, and the more you can have cover at centre to enable a change in the front three to cater for the collisions taken during the game to that point. In advance you don't need to be prescriptive about what the bench needs

I'll also repeat myself and say if coaches are picking 6:2 splits it's another good reason to drop the bench slots down to 7

This is a great chance for Jones to convert George Ford to 9. He is already a brilliant 10 and with his rugby smarts, pass, speed and kicking game you know he'd be a great 9. Two for the price of one! The Frogs used to do it all the time.

I mean, he did a belting job for Leicester recently when our 9 was yellow-carded...

Puja

Spiffy wrote:

Digby wrote:

Spiffy wrote: You want three backs on the bench ; a proper 9, a proper 10 and a utility back to cover the rest. Your example of Daly is a good one.

You want cover at 9, 10 and 15. The more that comes in the starting XV the more your bench can include an out and out X factor, be it pace, power or both, and the more you can have cover at centre to enable a change in the front three to cater for the collisions taken during the game to that point. In advance you don't need to be prescriptive about what the bench needs

I'll also repeat myself and say if coaches are picking 6:2 splits it's another good reason to drop the bench slots down to 7

This is a great chance for Jones to convert George Ford to 9. He is already a brilliant 10 and with his rugby smarts, pass, speed and kicking game you know he'd be a great 9. Two for the price of one! The Frogs used to do it all the time.

That ship has Sale'd.