Re: Premiership Final
Posted: Sat May 27, 2023 12:23 pm
Sounds like tickets for the match are virtually being given away, so poor is the expected attendance. English club rugby is basically f*cked.
Will Ford use his hands much today or just kick? I think the breakdown scrap will be worth watching but will either 9/10 pairing use quick ball?. Maybe neither of these teams attract much adulation from neutrals but there is the potential for a decent game of rugby looking at the 30 players starting, assuming they go (are sent) out wanting to play.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:52 am Yeah I wasn't meaning to lay it all at Ford's feet, I just found it so hard to pay attention to England in that period and could hardly remember why.
I don't think there's much debate on here about Ford's quality overall, I just don't know how well equipped we are to make the most of it. Certainly more than Smith, though I still feel he was dicked about so much in the 6 nations.
I know we're meant to say we like kicking battles and stuff now but I just want to see us use Ford's absurd skill with the ball at the gain-line. Everyone goes on about there being "less space at international level" as if that's an argument against running/attacking with the ball, rather than meaning you should pick the 10 with (by far) the best hands, timing and weight/range of a pass.
Agreed.DDP and BC are huge misses for us. I don't think the Sarries pack is to be feared at all. If anything, they are very evenly matched.16th man wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:04 pm Both Ben Curry and DDP missing is a big blow for the Sale back 5, though the back row is starting off quite well balanced with a slight favouring towards mobility.
Feels like it's a big ask for the young back 3 to cope with bombs, but if they can and the tight 5 can handle the physicality of the Sarries pack, the back row should be able to dominate the breakdown.
It all looks very finely balanced, though just as with the Leicester final all those years ago I don't trust that we'll get the rub of the green off the ref and will need to be that much better to take him out of it.
Sale did attack against Leicester and it was really what beat us - I think we'd've had them if it'd stayed an arm wrestle.Oakboy wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:51 pmWill Ford use his hands much today or just kick? I think the breakdown scrap will be worth watching but will either 9/10 pairing use quick ball?. Maybe neither of these teams attract much adulation from neutrals but there is the potential for a decent game of rugby looking at the 30 players starting, assuming they go (are sent) out wanting to play.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:52 am Yeah I wasn't meaning to lay it all at Ford's feet, I just found it so hard to pay attention to England in that period and could hardly remember why.
I don't think there's much debate on here about Ford's quality overall, I just don't know how well equipped we are to make the most of it. Certainly more than Smith, though I still feel he was dicked about so much in the 6 nations.
I know we're meant to say we like kicking battles and stuff now but I just want to see us use Ford's absurd skill with the ball at the gain-line. Everyone goes on about there being "less space at international level" as if that's an argument against running/attacking with the ball, rather than meaning you should pick the 10 with (by far) the best hands, timing and weight/range of a pass.
should be a great game all roundMikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 1:35 pm I feel like the second row battle should be fun at least.
Yeah I’m surprised at the negativity around this.Banquo wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 1:45 pmshould be a great game all roundMikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 1:35 pm I feel like the second row battle should be fun at least.
I can't remember Pearce being particularly lenient to Sarries. You should be fine, as long as you don't do the usual Sale thing of following Jono Ross's example and giving away a lot of penalties, several of which are on the line.
a big forward battle can make a great game.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 1:52 pmYeah I’m surprised at the negativity around this.Banquo wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 1:45 pmshould be a great game all roundMikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 1:35 pm I feel like the second row battle should be fun at least.
Both teams can be kind of dull when they’re just grinding away, but have shown a lot more in attack this season than some, and neither will be able to rely on just steamrolling the other.
mako was never fit.
For the panic of earlier, it looks like the lower two tiers are full and there's a decent chunk in the top tier as well. I'd say 60k plus, maybe even more. Not shabby at all for two teams who probably have smaller size regular stadia and fanbases.
? poor game to date. accuracy score -5. Good crowdPuja wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 3:25 pmFor the panic of earlier, it looks like the lower two tiers are full and there's a decent chunk in the top tier as well. I'd say 60k plus, maybe even more. Not shabby at all for two teams who probably have smaller size regular stadia and fanbases.
Decent game so far as well, but still getting going. Farrell's done enough workmanlike good things to justify his inevitable man of the match award.
Puja
I am deeply in favour of their morals and take the point that, without disruptive protest that disrupts lives, people won't pay attention to the impending and ongoing climate disaster. However, becoming hated and linking their cause to that hatred seems counterproductive.
I'm having fun?Banquo wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 3:27 pm? poor game to date. accuracy score -5. Good crowdPuja wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 3:25 pmFor the panic of earlier, it looks like the lower two tiers are full and there's a decent chunk in the top tier as well. I'd say 60k plus, maybe even more. Not shabby at all for two teams who probably have smaller size regular stadia and fanbases.
Decent game so far as well, but still getting going. Farrell's done enough workmanlike good things to justify his inevitable man of the match award.
Puja
Daly on.... good
{Mod} Have deleted this as was unclear whether this was a troll to be amusing which could lead to political discussion in the wrong place, or an actual genuine belief, which I'm not allowing to be hosted here. Send me a PM if you have complaints. {/Mod}Puja wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 3:31 pmI am deeply in favour of their morals and take the point that, without disruptive protest that disrupts lives, people won't pay attention to the impending and ongoing climate disaster. However, becoming hated and linking their cause to that hatred seems counterproductive.
That was a nice try. Lovely set move off the back of the scrum that Sale bought hook-line-sinker-rod-and copy of Angling Times. The bounce of the ball absolutely hated Joe Carpenter there - stopping and reversing just before his slide. Can't blame TCurry too much - no way anyone could resist trying the tackle there.
Puja