Re: What now?
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am
I think this is the way forward. We don’t have the commercial clout to have a league like France. We need better central coordination but also some mutual respect and competence both ways. For sure, this current embarrassment can’t continue or there will be no pro rugby in Wales.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am A move in the right direction at last:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-30144664
Yeah. I hope this (if it happens) is the first step towards complete central ownership but even a minority stake should bring better coordination between the WRU and clubs, and also between the clubs. Wales needs to be working together, for Wales.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:45 amI think this is the way forward. We don’t have the commercial clout to have a league like France. We need better central coordination but also some mutual respect and competence both ways. For sure, this current embarrassment can’t continue or there will be no pro rugby in Wales.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am A move in the right direction at last:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-30144664
Plan rejected. There really is no hope.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:53 amYeah. I hope this (if it happens) is the first step towards complete central ownership but even a minority stake should bring better coordination between the WRU and clubs, and also between the clubs. Wales needs to be working together, for Wales.Sandydragon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:45 amI think this is the way forward. We don’t have the commercial clout to have a league like France. We need better central coordination but also some mutual respect and competence both ways. For sure, this current embarrassment can’t continue or there will be no pro rugby in Wales.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2024 11:09 am A move in the right direction at last:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... e-30144664
You're right. I was being pessimistic. Another couple of reviews and documentation of long term aspirations and we'll be sorted.
I don’t think it’s all dead in the water. The part ownership bit seems to be but the article did suggest that other areas were open for agreement. Fingers crossed that some sense breaks out soonSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:46 amYou're right. I was being pessimistic. Another couple of reviews and documentation of long term aspirations and we'll be sorted.
That is indeed a disappointment as fans on both sides of the bridge would surely have welcomed with open arms the chance to see Bath play Llanelli or Cardiff v Leicester on a regular basis.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:57 am Not surprising, but a massive shame. Anglo-Welsh league 'off the table':
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... w-30302608
It would make a lot of sense from a supporters perspective to play games against English clubs. But this keeps coming and going; we need to think about how we can make the 4 teams work in the current league and not get distracted. The English clubs know they have a decent product (not what it once in some respects) and wont take risks.francoisfou wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:43 pmThat is indeed a disappointment as fans on both sides of the bridge would surely have welcomed with open arms the chance to see Bath play Llanelli or Cardiff v Leicester on a regular basis.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:57 am Not surprising, but a massive shame. Anglo-Welsh league 'off the table':
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... w-30302608
Agreed. You feel like this is another lost opportunity. The decentralisation of the academy structure really hasn’t worked.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 03, 2024 5:20 pm It occurs to me that, despite the problem of restructuring the 4 regions seeming intractable - because they're privately owned - this could have been partially fixed a few years ago. The WRU used to own half of the Dragons. They should have taken that opportunity to take (buy) full control. This would have allowed them to turn it into the low-funded development side we need. That would have taken us a long way towards where we need to be.
(Ideally then, but with more difficulty, if another region could be bought up by the WRU, that one could be turned into the high-funded region, leaving two privately owned regions on middling levels of funding.)