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Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:22 pm
by cashead
Donny osmond wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:15 pm *words*
When I said you’re threadbanned, I meant it. Do not let me catch you posting in this thread again.

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:17 pm
by Mikey Brown
Donny osmond wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 1:15 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:47 pm
Donny osmond wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:29 pm On a slow afternoon I read that "Francesca Gardiner has been tapped as the writer and executive producer of the Harry Potter reboot. Her previous production credits include Succession and Killing Eve. As a writer, she's credited for His Dark Materials, The Man in the High Castle, and more. Mark Mylod (Entourage, Game of Thrones, Shameless) will be an executive producer and director."

Which is some pretty decent pedigree in the creative side of things.
I’m a bit torn about this. Impressive names but I still can’t picture what the goal is.

It’s still kids stuff about a wizard, right? Or is it going to be a serious, high-brow, ‘prestige’ show now? That sounds god awful. Are they all going to be fucking and taking drugs?

It will be impressive if they make this not-shit, but I’m struggling to see how that will work.
Article in today's Guardian about the two mentioned above:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/a ... ter-series

Mylod, the director, worked on things like The Royle Family, Shooting Stars and Ali G Indahouse which you may or may not like but at least point to him being more than just fucking and drugs.
Damn. That’s quite a list of credits. I just knew him as the Succession guy who happened to do the awful ‘The Menu’ movie. Suggests a bit of versatility I guess.

I suppose I imagined it being older Harry Potter kids and coming out like Skins, or whatever equivalent teen drama exists now, given so much of HBO stuff is just the ‘adult’ version of normal bullshit TV.

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:20 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:42 pm
by cashead
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:20 pm A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?
You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:02 am
by Son of Mathonwy
cashead wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:42 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:20 pm A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?
You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.
Yeah, it makes economic sense to milk the cash cow but creatively it's worthless. I hope it fails - the world needs no more Harry Potter in it.

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:58 am
by cashead
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:02 am
cashead wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:42 pm
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:20 pm A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?
You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.
Yeah, it makes economic sense to milk the cash cow but creatively it's worthless. I hope it fails - the world needs no more Harry Potter in it.
Wait until it becomes a zombie franchise that continues to outlive its creators, like LOTR, Anpanman, Doraemon, Crayon Shin-Chan or Dragon Ball.

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:26 am
by Son of Mathonwy
cashead wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:58 am
Son of Mathonwy wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:02 am
cashead wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:42 pm

You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.
Yeah, it makes economic sense to milk the cash cow but creatively it's worthless. I hope it fails - the world needs no more Harry Potter in it.
Wait until it becomes a zombie franchise that continues to outlive its creators, like LOTR, Anpanman, Doraemon, Crayon Shin-Chan or Dragon Ball.
Yes, unfortunately I agree, given how big HP is (or has been) it will probably be one of those, a James Bond, a Star Trek or Wars, going on indefinitely.

Re: Harry Potter - the TV series

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2025 4:00 pm
by Numbers
I'm not particularly interested in this but the one thing I would say is the "hanging scene" that's been referred to isn't a hanging scene as such, he just magics him into the air and turns him upside down, it has no similarity to hanging by a noose in any way that I can see.