RugbyRebels

Ffs, dominate for 10 minutes and then give them something for nothing.

Great hands from Farrell there.

I'm still mesmerised by the light show before the teams emerged... What on earth were the organisers thinking?

Ford needed to take the tackle there.

Mellsblue wrote:Ford needed to take the tackle there.

The ref gave the penalty the wrong way. 6 was hands before getting anywhere near the ball. Blatant. Halfpenny doesn't get anywhere near the ball the before an England defender is involved and hence ruck is formed. Shocking decision really.

Welsh defence initially did really well to block off the support for Ford.

FKAS wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:Ford needed to take the tackle there.

The ref gave the penalty the wrong way. 6 was hands before getting anywhere near the ball. Blatant. Halfpenny doesn't get anywhere near the ball the before an England defender is involved and hence ruck is formed. Shocking decision really.

Welsh defence initially did really well to block off the support for Ford.

He still isolated himself by running away from his support. The rest is a result of a poor decision.

Mellsblue wrote:

FKAS wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:Ford needed to take the tackle there.

The ref gave the penalty the wrong way. 6 was hands before getting anywhere near the ball. Blatant. Halfpenny doesn't get anywhere near the ball the before an England defender is involved and hence ruck is formed. Shocking decision really.

Welsh defence initially did really well to block off the support for Ford.

He still isolated himself by running away from his support. The rest is a result of a poor decision.

Be fair. He had the support of mine man left and one man right. He should have had the support of 4-5 men left, so it wasn't that bad a decision.
It wasn't Ford's fault no-one else got their to support, or that the man in his left had no interest in getting involved in the ruck.

Fro the TV angle, we could see those supporters were JJ and Young's, with no-one else, which makes it obvious that you want JJ supporting you. On pitch, he'd k is he had 1 man in each side, and that one of them is JJ, but that the cavalry should be on his left.

Which Tyler wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

FKAS wrote:
The ref gave the penalty the wrong way. 6 was hands before getting anywhere near the ball. Blatant. Halfpenny doesn't get anywhere near the ball the before an England defender is involved and hence ruck is formed. Shocking decision really.

Welsh defence initially did really well to block off the support for Ford.

He still isolated himself by running away from his support. The rest is a result of a poor decision.

Be fair. He had the support of mine man left and one man right. He should have had the support of 4-5 men left, so it wasn't that bad a decision.
It wasn't Ford's fault no-one else got their to support, or that the man in his left had no interest in getting involved in the ruck.

Fro the TV angle, we could see those supporters were JJ and Young's, with no-one else, which makes it obvious that you want JJ supporting you. On pitch, he'd k is he had 1 man in each side, and that one of them is JJ, but that the cavalry should be on his left.

He ran away from his support. Whether it should’ve been there or not is moot. It wasn’t there and he therefore made the wrong call.
I’ll happily argue he’s the best 10 in the world but he made the wrong decision on that occasion.

Mellsblue wrote:

FKAS wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:Ford needed to take the tackle there.

The ref gave the penalty the wrong way. 6 was hands before getting anywhere near the ball. Blatant. Halfpenny doesn't get anywhere near the ball the before an England defender is involved and hence ruck is formed. Shocking decision really.

Welsh defence initially did really well to block off the support for Ford.

He still isolated himself by running away from his support. The rest is a result of a poor decision.

That was the one time where the little grubber through *was* the right tactical decision!

Puja

Getting increasingly irritated with the repeated cuts to EJ staring impassively. Does the director get something out of it I don't?

I don't know how Poite is saying that is clearly Wales 3 going down. That looked like Mako having his legs too far back to me. I think we are getting the rub of the green from the ref.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

FKAS wrote:
The ref gave the penalty the wrong way. 6 was hands before getting anywhere near the ball. Blatant. Halfpenny doesn't get anywhere near the ball the before an England defender is involved and hence ruck is formed. Shocking decision really.

Welsh defence initially did really well to block off the support for Ford.

He still isolated himself by running away from his support. The rest is a result of a poor decision.

That was the one time where the little grubber through *was* the right tactical decision!

Puja

The little dink into the right hand corner was definitely on. The Welsh defence did well to isolate him and force him to the left. After that he's treading water waiting for a forward to catch up with play. I certainly don't think it was his choice to run that way but he's got to go to the boot rather than take the tackle.

Puja wrote:I don't know how Poite is saying that is clearly Wales 3 going down. That looked like Mako having his legs too far back to me. I think we are getting the rub of the green from the ref.

Puja

I agree.

Imperious defence at the end of the half.

Puja wrote:I don't know how Poite is saying that is clearly Wales 3 going down. That looked like Mako having his legs too far back to me. I think we are getting the rub of the green from the ref.

Puja

I think refs decided we're on top. I agree with Flats that was a reset. Samson Lee certainly hinges a little easily but you are right Mako wasn't supporting his weight and his legs were too far back.

Well that was a bit crap. We may be slightly overdoing the kicking!! especially as it’s soo poorly done.

Poite is giving some comedy decisions today. How was that a Welsh scrum? England in possession, ball coming very slowly out, if it's any decision at all, it's an England scrum. All's well that ends well though.

We've had worse halves, but not by a great distance. At least we stopped autokicking after the wondrous tactic gave away the Welsh try.

Puja

JJ has been truly brilliant at catching the ball with arms away from the body.

Puja wrote:Poite is giving some comedy decisions today. How was that a Welsh scrum? England in possession, ball coming very slowly out, if it's any decision at all, it's an England scrum. All's well that ends well though.

We've had worse halves, but not by a great distance. At least we stopped autokicking after the wondrous tactic gave away the Welsh try.

Puja

He called use it about 30 seconds before and then sinker fell on it blocking it.

All I want to say is that final turnover... perfect tackle from launch. To be able to turn such an experienced and strong carrier over with such apparent ease was beautiful to see.

Poite reconfirming I know very little about the front row at scrum time.

As for the game, not massively enjoyable apart from the high class kicking display from our 10 and 12, with notable guest appearances from Youngs and Slade

Quite the contrast possession and territory-wise to last week.

JellyHead wrote:JJ has been truly brilliant at catching the ball with arms away from the body.

Joseph just looks such a natural ball player. In that respect he is the complete contrast to Farrell.

FKAS wrote:

Puja wrote:

Mellsblue wrote: He still isolated himself by running away from his support. The rest is a result of a poor decision.

That was the one time where the little grubber through *was* the right tactical decision!

Puja

The little dink into the right hand corner was definitely on. The Welsh defence did well to isolate him and force him to the left. After that he's treading water waiting for a forward to catch up with play. I certainly don't think it was his choice to run that way but he's got to go to the boot rather than take the tackle.

He could’ve just taken contact by staying on his running line and forced a ruck with plenty of support on hand. He isolated himself.

JellyHead wrote:

Puja wrote:Poite is giving some comedy decisions today. How was that a Welsh scrum? England in possession, ball coming very slowly out, if it's any decision at all, it's an England scrum. All's well that ends well though.

We've had worse halves, but not by a great distance. At least we stopped autokicking after the wondrous tactic gave away the Welsh try.

Puja

He called use it about 30 seconds before and then sinker fell on it blocking it.

Good to see the ref blowing after the "use it" call was ignored. I thought Young's was waiting for the hooter.

Banquo wrote:Well that was a bit crap. We may be slightly overdoing the kicking!! especially as it’s soo poorly done.

Yep. We look so much better ball-in-hand.