Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:08 am
The UK is actively assisting Israel in its actions in Gaza:
https://www.declassifieduk.org/the-brit ... ombs-gaza/
https://www.declassifieduk.org/the-brit ... ombs-gaza/
And yes, it is apartheid.As well as ordering an end to the occupation as soon as possible, the court, which consists of 15 judges, said Israel must put an end to all unlawful acts, including ceasing all new settlement activity and repealing legislation that maintains the occupation, including that which discriminates against Palestinians or seeks to modify the demographic composition of any parts of the occupied territory.
Salam said reparations included restitution, compensation and/or satisfaction, defining the former as “Israel’s obligation to return the land and other immovable property, as well as all assets seized from any natural or legal person since its occupation started in 1967, and all cultural property and assets taken from Palestinians and Palestinian institutions, including archives and documents.
“It also requires the evacuation of all settlers from existing settlements and the dismantling of the parts of the wall constructed by Israel that are situated in the occupied Palestinian territory, as well as allowing all Palestinians displaced during the occupation to return to their original place of residence.”
Yeah. I mean almost all of the ruling is obvious and has been for 57 years. It shouldn't even need to be spelled out.Which Tyler wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:47 pm It's good that the ICJ have balls - if only they had teeth as well
She has at least spoken words about needing a ceasefire and made noises about concern for civilians. It's an improvement, even if that is a low bar to trip over.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:45 am Although there a suggestions that Harris might take a different line than Biden on Gaza, she goes and meets Netanyahu anyway. She's only the VP - couldn't she have made some excuse (she's pretty busy right now) not to meet the genocider?
Yeah, it's a tiny improvement. The 'unswerving support for Israel' remains, as ever. It's like holding a kid down for a bully but saying 'ooh, don't knock all their teeth out'.Puja wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:24 amShe has at least spoken words about needing a ceasefire and made noises about concern for civilians. It's an improvement, even if that is a low bar to trip over.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:45 am Although there a suggestions that Harris might take a different line than Biden on Gaza, she goes and meets Netanyahu anyway. She's only the VP - couldn't she have made some excuse (she's pretty busy right now) not to meet the genocider?
Puja
It's this lack of equivalence between Palestinians that really makes the whole thing so infuriatingSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:31 am Could this perhaps be a hint of double standards, just maybe?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... hts-attack
It seems that blowing up Arab children in a rocket attack is horrific if you're Hezbollah, not so much if you're Israel, who are doing it most days.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... le-in-gaza
Now delayed. So much for that.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:08 pm This is good from Labour:
https://www.theguardian.com/law/article ... hu-gallant
It's mostly political (the Tories' action was only really likely to delay the arrest warrants?) but it's something.
Better still is the suggestion (at the end) that at least a ban on the sale of 'offensive' weapons is in the pipeline.
We're the indifferent* cop, USA is the bad cop, Israel is the psycho cop. We all have our part to play.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 9:56 am Gaza is nowhere now
"Moderate" leader dead, there'll be no negotiations now until next guy comes in who's likely to be more militant which suits bibi down to the ground
Bibi extends his perpetual war into Lebanon and its a total cluster fuck
The world is basically relying on Qatar to try and resolve this and that's not going to happen
Really, how long does it take for lawyers to determine if Israel is committing wars crimes or crimes against humanity? I'm sorry if it costs those amoral bastards at BAE but we need to stop arms sales now.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 7:18 pmNow delayed. So much for that.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:08 pm This is good from Labour:
https://www.theguardian.com/law/article ... hu-gallant
It's mostly political (the Tories' action was only really likely to delay the arrest warrants?) but it's something.
Better still is the suggestion (at the end) that at least a ban on the sale of 'offensive' weapons is in the pipeline.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/artic ... non-crisis
The most moral army in the world. It's disturbing but not surprising.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:18 pm Anyone see channel 4 news tonight, absolutely disturbing
https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/wp-con ... F_INAL.pdfthere is a real prospect that the UK and/or
individuals herein have committed breaches of international law (by
vicarious liability).
(1) Re. Israel’s breaches of the prohibitions of acquisition of territory by
aggression and (allegedly) genocide and torture, and the Palestinian
peoples’ right to self-determination: There is a real prospect that the
UK or individuals herein rendered aid which facilitated these wrongs
and alleged wrongs. This, alone, would be sufficient to establish
vicarious liability in international law.
(2) Re. Israel’s alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity: there is
a real prospect that the UK and/or individuals herein rendered aid
and assistance which facilitated the alleged wrongs and had the
requisite knowledge thereof. This would be sufficient to establish
vicarious liability in international law.