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Personally I doubt Clinton would ever give up the nomination voluntarily, but it's another twist in American politics. Personally I think it would be the best result for everybody!

David Shuster, a top US journalist, says that the election has entered “unchartered political territory” after Mrs Clinton’s diagnosis.

He quoted a Democratic party operative as saying: “Expect an emergency Democratic National Convention (DNC) meeting to consider a replacement.”

The source confirmed to Mr Shuster that Mrs Clinton would have to voluntarily give up the party nomination, saying: “We can make contingencies, argue, plead with her, but DNC bylaws are clear her nominee status is now totally up to her.”

Should Mrs Clinton drop out of the race, the DNC would hold a special meeting to vote for a successor. Party rules indicate that a new nominee would be elected by a simple majority vote.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/09 ... ection-ra/

No special consideration would be given to Tim Kaine, the current vice-presidential candidate, or Bernie Sanders, Mrs Clinton's closest rival in the race to secure the Democratic nomination. And if someone other than Mr Kaine were selected, he would remain the vice-presidential candidate.

When the unlikely possibility of Mrs Clinton dropping out was raised months ago amid the furore surrounding her emails and whether she would be indicted, Mr Biden was widely considered the likely replacement at the time.

Word is she has something serious.

Or maybe they finally realized she's not fit to be president, and neither is Trump, so they need to replace one of them. Or am I being too hopeful...

morepork wrote:Word is she has something serious.

I reckon it's a snuke.

What in the Blue Blazes is a snuke?

morepork wrote:What in the Blue Blazes is a snuke?

Something diagnosed by Dr Seuss?

I hear Trump has revealed that Hillary has a bad case of cooties

morepork wrote:What in the Blue Blazes is a snuke?

A snuke is a suitcase nuke designed to fit into a woman's snizz.

It's a real threat and was documented in the following current affairs programme:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snuke

Everything you need to know about the FBI investigation:

So, according to RealClear Politics poll averages, the gap has closed over the last 5 weeks from Clinton leading by 8 points to now just 1.8.

Trump has also pulled ahead in battleground states Florida, Ohio, Iowa, and Arizona.

Studies are also showing registered Republicans are more likely to vote in this election than registered Democrats (although it is not a guarantee Republicans will vote Trump I would imagine).

I'm also not sure the effect of Hillary's health scare would have seeped into these results yet. There has been a new DNC leak of emails that they have once again tried to blame on Russian hackers and Trump for encouraging it, and Wikileaks has said it will release its biggest dump of files on Clinton during October.

This is going to be close. Wonder how much the debates will affect the outcome, or is it at the point now where basically Trump can do or say or fail at whatever and its basically water off a ducks back, the dislike for Clinton is just so strong?

This is all I need to know about her:

But I certainly wouldn't vote for Trump either. I'd cast my vote for Jill Stein of the Greens, without hesitation.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12913174/j ... reen-party

Oh, & let's not forget Clinton's undivided support for the Apartheid state of Israel. That's actually the main reason I oppose her

rowan wrote:But I certainly wouldn't vote for Trump either. I'd cast my vote for Jill Stein of the Greens, without hesitation.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12913174/j ... reen-party

Oh, & let's not forget Clinton's undivided support for the Apartheid state of Israel. That's actually the main reason I oppose her

Is Donald a champion of the Palestinians?

I'm not sure what Trump's view on the Palestinian situation is, come to think of it, only that he hasn't been outspoken on it in the manner that Clinton has been with her clear and unequivocal support for Israel - following on from Obama who has just announced a record 38B "aid" package to the state which is currently bombing its oppressed native population. But as I've already mentioned, I wouldn't vote for Trump either. I'd vote for Jill Stein. Read the article I just posted a link to. She has some great things to say. & she's the only one in this election who does.

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:But I certainly wouldn't vote for Trump either. I'd cast my vote for Jill Stein of the Greens, without hesitation.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12913174/j ... reen-party

Oh, & let's not forget Clinton's undivided support for the Apartheid state of Israel. That's actually the main reason I oppose her

Is Donald a champion of the Palestinians?

I don't think he is a champion of anyone but himself!

But on Israel, he has said he would cut US funding and make them pay for defence themselves, and even called them out on funding ISIS - which as you can imagine didn't go down well.

jared_7 wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:

rowan wrote:But I certainly wouldn't vote for Trump either. I'd cast my vote for Jill Stein of the Greens, without hesitation.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12913174/j ... reen-party

Oh, & let's not forget Clinton's undivided support for the Apartheid state of Israel. That's actually the main reason I oppose her

Is Donald a champion of the Palestinians?

I don't think he is a champion of anyone but himself!

But on Israel, he has said he would cut US funding and make them pay for defence themselves, and even called them out on funding ISIS - which as you can imagine didn't go down well.

Was that before or after this:
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/talks-trump-israel/

Trump is a cockwomble. It's pointless asking him anything because he just makes hit up on the spot. Ask him with which of his tiny orange hands he prefers to wank with.

WaspInWales wrote:

jared_7 wrote:

WaspInWales wrote:
Is Donald a champion of the Palestinians?

I don't think he is a champion of anyone but himself!

But on Israel, he has said he would cut US funding and make them pay for defence themselves, and even called them out on funding ISIS - which as you can imagine didn't go down well.

Was that before or after this:
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/07/talks-trump-israel/

Fair play, hadn't seen that. Guess the Palestinians have even more to look forward to over the next few years then.

morepork wrote:Trump is a cockwomble. It's pointless asking him anything because he just makes hit up on the spot. Ask him with which of his tiny orange hands he prefers to wank with.

This.

Trump actually sounds a lot better on foreign policy, in spite of his blatantly racist views on immigration and building a wall and all that - which is the number one reason I'd never vote for him. Jill Stein, on the other hand, wants to cut funding to both Israel and Saudi, and doesn't hold any racist views about anything - quite the opposite, of course

To be honest I think the attempt to portay Clinton as the victim of sexist opposition to a female candidate is a little bit ironic, especially the suggestion she was not accountable for the fiasco in Libya and the email scandal which occurred when she was Secretary of State. This is where America gets it so wrong on feminism. Equality involves being accountable, not deflecting the blame, which is anathema to the feminist cause.

Chomsky and others are adamant Bush Junior wasn't even involved in policy making during his two terms as president, but nobody's suggesting this absolves the man of blame for what occurred during those tenures. Reagan, also, was almost certainly not calling the shots when the CIA helped murder 100,000 Central Americans under his watch. But he's still held accountabile.

That's the bottom line. The presidents today are basically just figureheads; spokespersons for a regime which doesn't actually change regardless which of the two major parties is in office. Everyone said Obama would never get elected while black, but it was probably due to the very fact he was an African-American that made him more electable to a nation reeling from the disasters his (white) predecessor wrought on the Middle East.

To me playing the 'sexist' card here is akin to playing the 'anti-Semitist' card on Israel. It's a form of emotional blackmail designed to silence those who actually have a moral conscience. & where did the 'sexist' card go when Dilma Rousseff was ousted in what basically amounted to a US-backed coup by pack of mostly white males of the Trump variety?

So before we start shedding crocodile tears for Hillary Clinton, who probably wouldn't even be a candidate were she not the wife of a former president, and pretending she had to walk five miles through the snow in bare feet to get to school every day, just remember what she had to say after the vicious murder of a another country's leader:

I never really bought the 'Iron Lady' tripe in the 80's.
Maggie was a Chemistry graduate FFS,.....it always seemed to me that Dennis and his golfing buddies in the city were the ones actually formulating policy.
Looking retrospectively at the monetarist policies that have crippled this country ever since you'd have to say it looks like a cabal of big business that had the reins. Dennis might not have had the political nouse to formulate policy but he was certainly in her shell-like telling her: 'xyz is a smashing fellow.....very trustworthy'.

It's not exactly earth shattering news but the rightwing are becoming more and more exposed as self-congratulatory, self-serving, privileged twats for whom cabinet positions are a bit of a lark before they start the really serious business of protecting their privileges by destabilising and then raping any country that has natural assets but doesn't have nukes.
Dave played quite a clever long game......whereas Boris, having pushed all of us under the bus, discovered he'd also pushed himself under the same bus.

Let's be fair to Hilary,.....she's more qualified than either Dave or Boris.

kk67 wrote:I never really bought the 'Iron Lady' tripe in the 80's.
Maggie was a Chemistry graduate FFS,.....it always seemed to me that Dennis and his golfing buddies in the city were the ones actually formulating policy.
Looking retrospectively at the monetarist policies that have crippled this country ever since you'd have to say it looks like a cabal of big business that had the reins. Dennis might not have had the political nouse to formulate policy but he was certainly in her shell-like telling her: 'xyz is a smashing fellow.....very trustworthy'.

It's not exactly earth shattering news but the rightwing are becoming more and more exposed as self-congratulatory, self-serving, privileged twats for whom cabinet positions are a bit of a lark before they start the really serious business of protecting their privileges by destabilising and then raping any country that has natural assets but doesn't have nukes.
Dave played quite a clever long game......whereas Boris, having pushed all of us under the bus, discovered he'd also pushed himself under the same bus.

Let's be fair to Hilary,.....she's more qualified than either Dave or Boris.

That's a marvellous pice of sexism. The Oxford graduate and barrister little lady couldn't possibly have a mind of her own.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote: That's a marvellous pice of sexism. The Oxford graduate and barrister little lady couldn't possibly have a mind of her own.

Denis paid for her Bar qualifications,......how many cases did she actually deal with..?. Tax was her speciality wasn't it..?.
Not much time in court, no surprises that stealth tax has become central to how the upper class deal with this country and why they are giving away huge tax breaks to scum of the earth industrialists.