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The bowling is not much better,
263 - 3 with new boy Lawrence showing well.
Sri L not the force they were.Ground looks nice.
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Poor Mendis is taking a hammering at short leg.

Root getting a confidence building knock for the far tougher tests to come.

Lawrence played well, a little unlucky with the ball that got him out.

God knows what Arthur was so upset about.
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Mendis did indeed get a battering. I guess after his recent batting performances it counts as doing something for the team if he's just in the way of the ball a lot of the time.
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Bit of a grind - small lead for SriL with 3 left.Mathews is no mug so Root''ll want this wrapped up; pitch could do anything on D5.

[ u/date: 74 to win, Leach gets his five'fer :) ]
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Always great excitement when a side chasing a small lead starts to collapse. In a way we're lucky to get to go again in the morning when hopefully the panic/adrenaline will have reset, and it's probably a done deal now.

Ali might be a little disappointed that both spinners took 5 for. Unless Curran plays as a batter then I suppose you could have a 3rd spinner.
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Digby wrote:Always great excitement when a side chasing a small lead starts to collapse. In a way we're lucky to get to go again in the morning when hopefully the panic/adrenaline will have reset, and it's probably a done deal now.

Ali might be a little disappointed that both spinners took 5 for. Unless Curran plays as a batter then I suppose you could have a 3rd spinner.
I expect Moeen was penciled in but his Covid did for that.
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Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:Always great excitement when a side chasing a small lead starts to collapse. In a way we're lucky to get to go again in the morning when hopefully the panic/adrenaline will have reset, and it's probably a done deal now.

Ali might be a little disappointed that both spinners took 5 for. Unless Curran plays as a batter then I suppose you could have a 3rd spinner.
I expect Moeen was penciled in but his Covid did for that.
Seems likely. But thus far he's spent time in isolation and gout out just in time to watch both potential slots in the team locked down for at least the next game.

I'm still not sold on him as a spinner, really as anything but a late order counter attack batsman, but it's got to be hard
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Digby wrote:
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Digby wrote:Always great excitement when a side chasing a small lead starts to collapse. In a way we're lucky to get to go again in the morning when hopefully the panic/adrenaline will have reset, and it's probably a done deal now.

Ali might be a little disappointed that both spinners took 5 for. Unless Curran plays as a batter then I suppose you could have a 3rd spinner.
I expect Moeen was penciled in but his Covid did for that.
Seems likely. But thus far he's spent time in isolation and gout out just in time to watch both potential slots in the team locked down for at least the next game.

I'm still not sold on him as a spinner, really as anything but a late order counter attack batsman, but it's got to be hard
I think there’s always a chance of an Indian summer but he’s been misused and underdeveloped as a test match cricketer, for me.
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Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:
Stom wrote:
I expect Moeen was penciled in but his Covid did for that.
Seems likely. But thus far he's spent time in isolation and gout out just in time to watch both potential slots in the team locked down for at least the next game.

I'm still not sold on him as a spinner, really as anything but a late order counter attack batsman, but it's got to be hard
I think there’s always a chance of an Indian summer but he’s been misused and underdeveloped as a test match cricketer, for me.

I'm more in the camp that says he's just not very good, not at test level. Which I don't say just because I'd rather he was playing for Wuss.
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Seems likely. But thus far he's spent time in isolation and gout out just in time to watch both potential slots in the team locked down for at least the next game.

I'm still not sold on him as a spinner, really as anything but a late order counter attack batsman, but it's got to be hard
I think there’s always a chance of an Indian summer but he’s been misused and underdeveloped as a test match cricketer, for me.

I'm more in the camp that says he's just not very good, not at test level. Which I don't say just because I'd rather he was playing for Wuss.
Half of me says he's a very good player who has been mismanaged.

Half of me says he's a technically proficient player without the mental aptitude to be top class.

Either way, we might see some more of him.
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Stom wrote:
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I think there’s always a chance of an Indian summer but he’s been misused and underdeveloped as a test match cricketer, for me.

I'm more in the camp that says he's just not very good, not at test level. Which I don't say just because I'd rather he was playing for Wuss.
Half of me says he's a very good player who has been mismanaged.

Half of me says he's a technically proficient player without the mental aptitude to be top class.

Either way, we might see some more of him.
He hasn't got much in the way of defence on the batting side, and whilst he sometimes gets a nice loop and some drift as a bowler that's not always the case, and he struggles to spin it much, and he can struggle for length, and he tends to get wickets when batsman assume he's worse than he is and over attack, he's tended not to pick up wickets when batsman are more circumspect, even if the pitch is spinning and he should be the match winner.

Though there is a problem he often doesn't seem to think he belongs there himself, he's perhaps too much a pleasant individual (and he is a nice lad) and doesn't have that abrasive ego which allows some to push past their ability levels.
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Another 5-day corker, could have gone either way.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/55716268

first Oz. defeat at the Gabba for 32 years..good comeback by India.
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A very sensible innings from Sri Lanka after losing two early wickets, and wtf Perera thought he was doing I've no idea, that's a shot to play when you need 11 to win off 3 balls in a limited overs match. Pitch is slow, but if it breaks up England might have some pressure to come
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Digby wrote:A very sensible innings from Sri Lanka after losing two early wickets, and wtf Perera thought he was doing I've no idea, that's a shot to play when you need 11 to win off 3 balls in a limited overs match. Pitch is slow, but if it breaks up England might have some pressure to come
We need 500+ to stand a chance, IMO. Anything less and we'll be adrift in the final innings.

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Sibley's having a mare of a tour.
The vagaries and challenges of Test series with different pitches makes it what it is...another half-dozen bagged by Mr Evergreen, but nowt for 200-ish for the spin-twins.
Need a few big innings now to keep things steady.
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Oh dear - Crawley goes too, 5-2. :shock:
Sri L must feel embuldeniya'd by their performance so far..
a spinner who spins is a good thing.
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Puja wrote:
Digby wrote:A very sensible innings from Sri Lanka after losing two early wickets, and wtf Perera thought he was doing I've no idea, that's a shot to play when you need 11 to win off 3 balls in a limited overs match. Pitch is slow, but if it breaks up England might have some pressure to come
We need 500+ to stand a chance, IMO. Anything less and we'll be adrift in the final innings.

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350+ takes a lot of time out of the game, 400+ for the draw, 500+ I assume you're talking about the chance of forcing a win?
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Even-stevens now - a good full day with the bat will nudge Eng level / in front going into D4, which would suggest a draw.
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I fancy Sri Lanka from here, England's bottom 3 give a long look to the tail. That said Root looks very balanced and organised
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Digby wrote:I fancy Sri Lanka from here, England's bottom 3 give a long look to the tail. That said Root looks very balanced and organised
Unless we badly collapse, this game has draw written all over it.

Or if the spinners get their act together and bowl out SL in their 2nd innings.

So probably a draw.

Another root double would be nice
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Stom wrote:
Digby wrote:I fancy Sri Lanka from here, England's bottom 3 give a long look to the tail. That said Root looks very balanced and organised
Unless we badly collapse, this game has draw written all over it.

Or if the spinners get their act together and bowl out SL in their 2nd innings.

So probably a draw.

Another root double would be nice

Ali will be pleased, nothing from Leach or Bess in the first two games that suggests their performing well, only that they picked up wickets in spite of how they bowled locked out their spots in this game. Which does leave the problem we could end up with 3 off spinners if it's not Bess for the chop, and they like Bess
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Once again, our entire batting performance is relying on Root plus one of Bairstow or Buttler to save it from utter embarrassment. So far, he is delivering, altough I'm not sure that this is a viable tactic for India.

The newer players ars really struggling with the sub-continent spin - I don't think Sibley, Crawley, and Lawrence have made 40 runs between them this series. Hopefully the coaches are working with them extremely hard. There's a big case to have Ali back - he'd stiffen the tail and he's a decent player of spin. And his bowling can't be any worse than Bess's was.

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Puja wrote:Once again, our entire batting performance is relying on Root plus one of Bairstow or Buttler to save it from utter embarrassment. So far, he is delivering, altough I'm not sure that this is a viable tactic for India.

The newer players ars really struggling with the sub-continent spin - I don't think Sibley, Crawley, and Lawrence have made 40 runs between them this series. Hopefully the coaches are working with them extremely hard. There's a big case to have Ali back - he'd stiffen the tail and he's a decent player of spin. And his bowling can't be any worse than Bess's was.

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Are you forgetting Lawrence scored 73 in the first test?
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Stom wrote:
Puja wrote:Once again, our entire batting performance is relying on Root plus one of Bairstow or Buttler to save it from utter embarrassment. So far, he is delivering, altough I'm not sure that this is a viable tactic for India.

The newer players ars really struggling with the sub-continent spin - I don't think Sibley, Crawley, and Lawrence have made 40 runs between them this series. Hopefully the coaches are working with them extremely hard. There's a big case to have Ali back - he'd stiffen the tail and he's a decent player of spin. And his bowling can't be any worse than Bess's was.

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Are you forgetting Lawrence scored 73 in the first test?
I am entirely! Sorry!

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So far, Root has almost 4 times more runs than England's 2nd highest scorer this series...

He's approaching 400, Bairstow has 110.

Masterclass from Root, back to back daddy tons, but terrible from the rest of the batsmen. It is a very inexperienced batting lineup, though... Only really Bairstow and Buttler there and Buttler did give some support today before an unlucky dismissal.
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