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[Mellsblue]

I don't imagine there's a lack of left wing publications, just a lack of people buying them

There’s a lack of people buying any publications. Most ‘information’ is now gleaned in bite sized chunks on social media. A platform any old nut job can post a ‘fact’.

Something I know all too well from my time posting with the twitter handle Boris Johnson's Mum

I had on the social media side been told that so far Labour have outspent the Tories, but the Tories were aping Brexit campaign and saving a massive spend for these final few days. For myself, and I might not be watching enough social media, I've only seen two Labour adds, both on YouTube, and both were those annoying pieces of shit you can't skip, no idea what they said as I muted them both, but they did feature the NHS logo.

It’s not just how much you spend, and the Lib Dems were beating all comers last time I checked, it’s how often users retweet, like etc. This is where Labour have a huge advantage.

[Digby]

There’s a lack of people buying any publications. Most ‘information’ is now gleaned in bite sized chunks on social media. A platform any old nut job can post a ‘fact’.

Something I know all too well from my time posting with the twitter handle Boris Johnson's Mum

I had on the social media side been told that so far Labour have outspent the Tories, but the Tories were aping Brexit campaign and saving a massive spend for these final few days. For myself, and I might not be watching enough social media, I've only seen two Labour adds, both on YouTube, and both were those annoying pieces of shit you can't skip, no idea what they said as I muted them both, but they did feature the NHS logo.

It’s not just how much you spend, and the Lib Dems were beating all comers last time I checked, it’s how often users retweet, like etc. This is where Labour have a huge advantage.

I still feel my own advantage in this is simply not going on twitter, or facebook, or instagram, or...

[Mellsblue]

Something I know all too well from my time posting with the twitter handle Boris Johnson's Mum

Oh yeah. This genuinely made me lol.

[Mellsblue]

Something I know all too well from my time posting with the twitter handle Boris Johnson's Mum

I had on the social media side been told that so far Labour have outspent the Tories, but the Tories were aping Brexit campaign and saving a massive spend for these final few days. For myself, and I might not be watching enough social media, I've only seen two Labour adds, both on YouTube, and both were those annoying pieces of shit you can't skip, no idea what they said as I muted them both, but they did feature the NHS logo.

It’s not just how much you spend, and the Lib Dems were beating all comers last time I checked, it’s how often users retweet, like etc. This is where Labour have a huge advantage.

I still feel my own advantage in this is simply not going on twitter, or facebook, or instagram, or...

Agreed.

[Stom]

There’s a lack of people buying any publications. Most ‘information’ is now gleaned in bite sized chunks on social media. A platform any old nut job can post a ‘fact’.

Something I know all too well from my time posting with the twitter handle Boris Johnson's Mum

I had on the social media side been told that so far Labour have outspent the Tories, but the Tories were aping Brexit campaign and saving a massive spend for these final few days. For myself, and I might not be watching enough social media, I've only seen two Labour adds, both on YouTube, and both were those annoying pieces of shit you can't skip, no idea what they said as I muted them both, but they did feature the NHS logo.

It’s not just how much you spend, and the Lib Dems were beating all comers last time I checked, it’s how often users retweet, like etc. This is where Labour have a huge advantage.

Not just there but how they target swing voters, something more left wing parties have struggled with.

I think Labour are going to rely on the student mobilization, pretty much.

[Digby]

Something I know all too well from my time posting with the twitter handle Boris Johnson's Mum

I had on the social media side been told that so far Labour have outspent the Tories, but the Tories were aping Brexit campaign and saving a massive spend for these final few days. For myself, and I might not be watching enough social media, I've only seen two Labour adds, both on YouTube, and both were those annoying pieces of shit you can't skip, no idea what they said as I muted them both, but they did feature the NHS logo.

It’s not just how much you spend, and the Lib Dems were beating all comers last time I checked, it’s how often users retweet, like etc. This is where Labour have a huge advantage.

Not just there but how they target swing voters, something more left wing parties have struggled with.

I think Labour are going to rely on the student mobilization, pretty much.

The best targeting strategies in recent elections have come from the SNP, how much further left should they move to be left wing? I would add here by best I mean most effective, I don't actually like what the SNP have been up to

[Son of Mathonwy]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

[Puja]

Speaking of fake news:

https://tompride.wordpress.com/2019/12/ ... 21unIghW6U

Wonder who paid for that botnet to spread that bit of propaganda to help the Conservatives? The Russians are infamous for it, but it is also the kind of thing Cummings would do.

Puja

[Puja]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

Jesus fuck. How can anyone remotely look at this and decide that it's best to support Boris?!

Puja

[Digby]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

Jesus fuck. How can anyone remotely look at this and decide that it's best to support Boris?!

Puja

Equally how can the official opposition veer to the left snatching defeat from certain victory in the face of such as Boris. It's all gone mad at the top

[Banquo]

when will it all end. Its so fcking desperate. All the MPs on show seem to be either pants or CAUCs

[Stom]

when will it all end. Its so fcking desperate. All the MPs on show seem to be either pants or CAUCs

Cauc? Complete and utter?

[morepork]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

Fuck me. That's his worldview, spunked all over a large screen. How are people like him able to breed? They are an evolutionary dead end.

[Stom]

Got a visit from the LibDem candidate today, who understood what I said and confirmed there were thousands of more natural Labour voters in Twickenham who were backing the LDs.

She was nice enough, but the councillor didn't want to accept that their plan was poor, just that it was brave.

It was brave, I think it was foolish.

[Sandydragon]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

Fuck me. That's his worldview, spunked all over a large screen. How are people like him able to breed? They are an evolutionary dead end.

That is a total disgrace. Somewhat surprised it hasn’t surfaced previously. I can only assume no one bothered buying the book.

[Puja]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

Fuck me. That's his worldview, spunked all over a large screen. How are people like him able to breed? They are an evolutionary dead end.

To be fair, we've still had no confirmation on if he's bred or how many times.

Puja

[Puja]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500

This is really quite something. An analysis of online election advertisements has found that 88% of those paid for by the Conservatives contained definite factual inaccuracies (or lies, as some people like to call them). The figure for Labour? They couldn't find a paid Labour ad with a lie in it.

Puja

[Stom]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50726500

This is really quite something. An analysis of online election advertisements has found that 88% of those paid for by the Conservatives contained definite factual inaccuracies (or lies, as some people like to call them). The figure for Labour? They couldn't find a paid Labour ad with a lie in it.

Puja

88% is quite incredible!

That needs sharing.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Can you imagine what the papers would be saying if Corbyn had written a book like this?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 39346.html

"burning eyes, hook noses and hairy black eyebrows that joined in the middle"
“The interesting thing about his half-caste looks, he decided, was that he didn’t look Negroid.”

Jesus fuck. How can anyone remotely look at this and decide that it's best to support Boris?!

Puja

Equally how can the official opposition veer to the left snatching defeat from certain victory in the face of such as Boris. It's all gone mad at the top

It's difficult for the opposition when most of the media ignore what Boris has written and consider Corbyn to be the one with the bigger racism issues despite having written or said absolutely nothing racist.

[Digby]

Jesus fuck. How can anyone remotely look at this and decide that it's best to support Boris?!

Puja

Equally how can the official opposition veer to the left snatching defeat from certain victory in the face of such as Boris. It's all gone mad at the top

It's difficult for the opposition when most of the media ignore what Boris has written and consider Corbyn to be the one with the bigger racism issues despite having written or said absolutely nothing racist.

That's how it is for Labour, they can either respond to that or fall victim to it. Also I'd prefer more people read a more lefty opinion piece, though I confess I go as far as the Guardian as an everyday thing, but there are lefty publications, it's just not enough people read them, which might at other times influence how Labour presents itself

Labour simply doesn't find itself in even lefty country, there's a reason the Tories are the normal party of government no matter how much that annoys them (and me) at times

[Digby]

Channel 4 had an interesting article on tonight, looking at who in this election campaign has gained positive media stories that'll gain say 5-10 seconds of the news bulletins delivered on the airwaves on all those shows that do (some) news but not really any chat about the news/politics, so that's things like Heart Fm, Absolute Radio and so on.

The Channel 4 article didn't focus on we could kill all the listeners to these stations and reduce property prices without ever losing a cure to cancer, rather they'd analysed the Tory party had gained the most positive stories followed by Labour, and that Labour had also had one really negative cycle of news (I didn't actually hear what the negative article was as I was being asked about salad). So is that even non political stations favour the Tories, is that the Tories are the team in power and naturally garner more attention, or is it the Tories are better at giving a headline and staying on message?

[Stom]

Channel 4 had an interesting article on tonight, looking at who in this election campaign has gained positive media stories that'll gain say 5-10 seconds of the news bulletins delivered on the airwaves on all those shows that do (some) news but not really any chat about the news/politics, so that's things like Heart Fm, Absolute Radio and so on.

The Channel 4 article didn't focus on we could kill all the listeners to these stations and reduce property prices without ever losing a cure to cancer, rather they'd analysed the Tory party had gained the most positive stories followed by Labour, and that Labour had also had one really negative cycle of news (I didn't actually hear what the negative article was as I was being asked about salad). So is that even non political stations favour the Tories, is that the Tories are the team in power and naturally garner more attention, or is it the Tories are better at giving a headline and staying on message?

The Tories' strategists are much better. Labour are useless and the Lib Dems clueless.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Equally how can the official opposition veer to the left snatching defeat from certain victory in the face of such as Boris. It's all gone mad at the top

It's difficult for the opposition when most of the media ignore what Boris has written and consider Corbyn to be the one with the bigger racism issues despite having written or said absolutely nothing racist.

That's how it is for Labour, they can either respond to that or fall victim to it. Also I'd prefer more people read a more lefty opinion piece, though I confess I go as far as the Guardian as an everyday thing, but there are lefty publications, it's just not enough people read them, which might at other times influence how Labour presents itself

Labour simply doesn't find itself in even lefty country, there's a reason the Tories are the normal party of government no matter how much that annoys them (and me) at times

Yes, of course, silly Labour. All they needed to do was buy a few national newspapers, it's their own fault really.

[Banquo]

when will it all end. Its so fcking desperate. All the MPs on show seem to be either pants or CAUCs

Cauc? Complete and utter?

yep

[Digby]

It's difficult for the opposition when most of the media ignore what Boris has written and consider Corbyn to be the one with the bigger racism issues despite having written or said absolutely nothing racist.

That's how it is for Labour, they can either respond to that or fall victim to it. Also I'd prefer more people read a more lefty opinion piece, though I confess I go as far as the Guardian as an everyday thing, but there are lefty publications, it's just not enough people read them, which might at other times influence how Labour presents itself

Labour simply doesn't find itself in even lefty country, there's a reason the Tories are the normal party of government no matter how much that annoys them (and me) at times

Yes, of course, silly Labour. All they needed to do was buy a few national newspapers, it's their own fault really.

There are plenty of left wing publications, and there are plenty of left wing bodies with the money to publish, again there's a shortage of people wanting to read them which is the actual problem, people tend to chose something rather more right leaning. Labour can either move to the people, or hope the people move to where it currently is, only one of those looks a viable election strategy to me