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Peej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:22 pm Maybe. A tiny deal with whatever cap space they have left initially, and then a bigger deal and property empire can magically appear next season for him and his brother (a la the Vunipolae).

Peej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:21 pm Hearle, Atkinson and Theobald-Thomas are all off to Gloucester from Worcester.

Individually they won't be on much, but increasing a squad size by nearly 10% seems a bit much under the cap?

Gloskarlos wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:06 pm

Peej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 2:21 pm Hearle, Atkinson and Theobald-Thomas are all off to Gloucester from Worcester.

Individually they won't be on much, but increasing a squad size by nearly 10% seems a bit much under the cap?

Mark Atkinson out for the season, JFR possibly the same, or at least 4 months out. I can’t tell if they’ve been signed as academy or first team. Suspect the former in most cases. Not breaking any Gloucester bank I reckon.

Stom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:01 pm Collier is out for the season apparently. Could Quins go in for Koch?

Banquo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:25 pm

Peej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 5:22 pm Maybe. A tiny deal with whatever cap space they have left initially, and then a bigger deal and property empire can magically appear next season for him and his brother (a la the Vunipolae).

I'd think the salary cap should be hugely relaxed.

And sorry to be quick on trigger discussing players futures, very tough on you Wasps fans. Always liked the club myself, its a massive shame.

Beasties wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:42 am Comforting words Banquo, thank you.

Watching these players dissipate and get signed elsewhere is gonna be heartbreaking for us Wasps fans. Truly felt the team was on the cusp of a big improvement at last with these young players becoming men. It's hard enough posting anything at all right now. Feel like rugby itself’s been taken away from me. I’m just a TV viewer. Christ knows how those at the sharp end must feel.

jimKRFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:07 am

Beasties wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:42 am Comforting words Banquo, thank you.

Watching these players dissipate and get signed elsewhere is gonna be heartbreaking for us Wasps fans. Truly felt the team was on the cusp of a big improvement at last with these young players becoming men. It's hard enough posting anything at all right now. Feel like rugby itself’s been taken away from me. I’m just a TV viewer. Christ knows how those at the sharp end must feel.

Having been through the stripping of players to new clubs where suddenly they're in the England side and a whatever club rising star (Lipman, Mako, Hodgson, Sheridan etc..) it does chafe a little! It's a horrible feeling and it does take time to get over it.

However, (in my experience) for Bristol the club reformed at a lower level, it was more like a "club" than a team. I recall going to Penzance for an early season game and it was like a relay club tour. We, the supporters, were involved (through the Bris trust) with the running of the club, we could freely approach all members of the board, coaches and players and it was a lot more fun. I recall on the Penzance trip seeing a future England prop the worse for drink, naked and karaoke-ing with an inflatable palm tree - would see that now I'm sure! The trust/fans paid for a player, Bernardo Stortoni, which showed (to the fans) that the fans really counted.

If Wasps reform lower down then you can work back up and it will be a roller coaster - but it will be worth it. If they don't maybe you get your weekends back to spend time with family, play yourself or get involved in a local side. But, hard as it is to remember, it's just a game (for you) and no-ones died.

Beasties wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:28 am

jimKRFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:07 am

Beasties wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:42 am Comforting words Banquo, thank you.

Watching these players dissipate and get signed elsewhere is gonna be heartbreaking for us Wasps fans. Truly felt the team was on the cusp of a big improvement at last with these young players becoming men. It's hard enough posting anything at all right now. Feel like rugby itself’s been taken away from me. I’m just a TV viewer. Christ knows how those at the sharp end must feel.

Having been through the stripping of players to new clubs where suddenly they're in the England side and a whatever club rising star (Lipman, Mako, Hodgson, Sheridan etc..) it does chafe a little! It's a horrible feeling and it does take time to get over it.

However, (in my experience) for Bristol the club reformed at a lower level, it was more like a "club" than a team. I recall going to Penzance for an early season game and it was like a relay club tour. We, the supporters, were involved (through the Bris trust) with the running of the club, we could freely approach all members of the board, coaches and players and it was a lot more fun. I recall on the Penzance trip seeing a future England prop the worse for drink, naked and karaoke-ing with an inflatable palm tree - would see that now I'm sure! The trust/fans paid for a player, Bernardo Stortoni, which showed (to the fans) that the fans really counted.

If Wasps reform lower down then you can work back up and it will be a roller coaster - but it will be worth it. If they don't maybe you get your weekends back to spend time with family, play yourself or get involved in a local side. But, hard as it is to remember, it's just a game (for you) and no-ones died.

I know. Worse things happen at sea. And on land. Just an overwhelming feeling of sadness right now. I’ll give myself a shake.

jimKRFC wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:07 am

Beasties wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:42 am Comforting words Banquo, thank you.

Watching these players dissipate and get signed elsewhere is gonna be heartbreaking for us Wasps fans. Truly felt the team was on the cusp of a big improvement at last with these young players becoming men. It's hard enough posting anything at all right now. Feel like rugby itself’s been taken away from me. I’m just a TV viewer. Christ knows how those at the sharp end must feel.

Having been through the stripping of players to new clubs where suddenly they're in the England side and a whatever club rising star (Lipman, Mako, Hodgson, Sheridan etc..) it does chafe a little! It's a horrible feeling and it does take time to get over it.

However, (in my experience) for Bristol the club reformed at a lower level, it was more like a "club" than a team. I recall going to Penzance for an early season game and it was like a relay club tour. We, the supporters, were involved (through the Bris trust) with the running of the club, we could freely approach all members of the board, coaches and players and it was a lot more fun. I recall on the Penzance trip seeing a future England prop the worse for drink, naked and karaoke-ing with an inflatable palm tree - would see that now I'm sure! The trust/fans paid for a player, Bernardo Stortoni, which showed (to the fans) that the fans really counted.

If Wasps reform lower down then you can work back up and it will be a roller coaster - but it will be worth it. If they don't maybe you get your weekends back to spend time with family, play yourself or get involved in a local side. But, hard as it is to remember, it's just a game (for you) and no-ones died.

Puja wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:40 amYou're allowed your sadness mate. Massive part of your life changing and possibly disappearing entirely - just cause worse things happen at sea doesn't mean you're not allowed to be sad about the bad thing in front of you.

Scrumhead wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 10:48 am FWIW, I’m sad about it too. Clearly, not to the same level as Worcester or Wasps fans, but I didn’t want to lose either club.

I’m really worried about the future of rugby right now.

FKAS wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:48 am The Ruck being the bastion of truth we all know it is are suggesting Jack Willis to Tigers as the first Wasps player to sign for a new club.

FKAS wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:48 am The Ruck being the bastion of truth we all know it is are suggesting Jack Willis to Tigers as the first Wasps player to sign for a new club.

Puja wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:21 pm

FKAS wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:48 am The Ruck being the bastion of truth we all know it is are suggesting Jack Willis to Tigers as the first Wasps player to sign for a new club.

Would make sense, with Reffell potentially off to Wales at the end of the season. More than likely The Ruck flailing at connections in hope of guessing right.

Biyi Alo rumoured to be off to France. Would make sense - he would very much suit the French game.

Puja

Timbo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:29 pm And one some of you guys are going to really hate, Tom Willis could well be off to Ulster as he’s Irish qualified.

Scrumhead wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:27 pm Tom Willis has got to look after number one, but flip me, if he becomes an Ireland international, that’s a staggering own goal for English rugby.