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Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:33 pm
by morepork
WaspInWales wrote:Digby wrote:morepork wrote:
and probably drunk. What a role model.
Isn't he a non-drinker having observed his brother die of being very much a drinker?
Yep, supposedly tea total and doesn't touch drugs. Quite how his brain has become so addled is anyone's guess.
He just seems so incredibly insulated from experience that shapes a normal well-rounded human being. He is clearly poorly educated, seems to not have had any experience of life outside of his father's business world, and this lazy unsophisticated diet is something you'd expect from a complete shut in of a personality.
In short, the cunt is fucked up.
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 4:44 pm
by Mellsblue
Ha, yeah. It’s a bit like getting a dog from a rescue centre, being told your new pet hasn’t been properly trained or taught to socialise and then getting home and deciding “fuck it, let’s put the dog in charge”.
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:47 pm
by Digby
Mellsblue wrote:Ha, yeah. It’s a bit like getting a dog from a rescue centre, being told your new pet hasn’t been properly trained or taught to socialise and then getting home and deciding “fuck it, let’s put the dog in charge”.
Asides from having worms it's clearly eating its own shit
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:45 pm
by Which Tyler
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42231806
After 11 months, and 3 drafts, Trump finally gets his racist 3 month (?) Travel ban through the courts.
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:50 pm
by WaspInWales
Yep, and in other news he has been shrinking national monuments:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42226752
Giving them back to the people...so that oil companies can drill there.
No doubt he'll be Tweeting about the winning again.
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:52 pm
by morepork
WaspInWales wrote:
Yep, and in other news he has been shrinking national monuments:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42226752
Giving them back to the people...so that oil companies can drill there.
No doubt he'll be Tweeting about the winning again.
There are areas of profound cultural and environmental significance in these places. Fuck me.
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:40 pm
by WaspInWales
morepork wrote:WaspInWales wrote:
Yep, and in other news he has been shrinking national monuments:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42226752
Giving them back to the people...so that oil companies can drill there.
No doubt he'll be Tweeting about the winning again.
There are areas of profound cultural and environmental significance in these places. Fuck me.
You seem surprised.
If the land was synonymous with the confederates, he would've increased it.
Re: Trump
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 11:49 pm
by Which Tyler
Can someone please explain WTF is going on with Paul Manafort today.
My understanding just has to be wrong.
My understanding is that he's currently accused of treason, and is out on bail. And has thought this the perfect time to co-author editorials alongside a member of Russian Intelligence
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:15 am
by WaspInWales
Which Tyler wrote:Can someone please explain WTF is going on with Paul Manafort today.
My understanding just has to be wrong.
My understanding is that he's currently accused of treason, and is out on bail. And has thought this the perfect time to co-author editorials alongside a member of Russian Intelligence
That's just a superb way to spend your time on bail. That'll silence the doubters.
Cue increase in 'crooked hillary' tweets in 5,4,3...
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:34 am
by Sandydragon
morepork wrote:WaspInWales wrote:Digby wrote:
Isn't he a non-drinker having observed his brother die of being very much a drinker?
Yep, supposedly tea total and doesn't touch drugs. Quite how his brain has become so addled is anyone's guess.
He just seems so incredibly insulated from experience that shapes a normal well-rounded human being. He is clearly poorly educated, seems to not have had any experience of life outside of his father's business world, and this lazy unsophisticated diet is something you'd expect from a complete shut in of a personality.
In short, the cunt is fucked up.
Agree. He’s like some aristocratic throwback where the eldest child wasn’t too bright but didn’t have to worry too much as daddy’s money would come his way soon enough.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:56 pm
by Which Tyler
Which Tyler wrote:Can someone please explain WTF is going on with Paul Manafort today.
My understanding just has to be wrong.
My understanding is that he's currently accused of treason, and is out on bail. And has thought this the perfect time to co-author editorials alongside a member of Russian Intelligence
Here you go:
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/04/polit ... index.html
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was ghostwriting an op-ed while out on bail last month with a Russian who has ties to the Russian intelligence service, Justice Department Special Counsel Robert Muller's team said Monday.
In a new filing Monday afternoon, Mueller's investigators said Manafort was working on an editorial in English as late as last Thursday and that it related to his political work for Ukraine, which factored into his money-laundering and foreign lobbying criminal charges.
The filing asks for the court to revisit a bail agreement Mueller's office and Manafort's lawyers made jointly last week. The court had not yet approved a change to his $10 million unsecured bail and house arrest.
"Even if the ghostwritten op-ed were entirely accurate, fair, and balanced, it would be a violation of this Court's November 8 Order if it had been published," prosecutors wrote. "The editorial clearly was undertaken to influence the public's opinion of defendant Manafort, or else there would be no reason to seek its publication (much less for Manafort and his long-time associate to ghostwrite it in another's name)."
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Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:47 pm
by Which Tyler
Oh, and...
Trump White House Weighing Plans for Private Spies to Counter “Deep State” Enemies
Because that's what all non-dictators do...
The Trump administration is considering a set of proposals developed by Blackwater founder Erik Prince and a retired CIA officer — with assistance from Oliver North, a key figure in the Iran-Contra scandal — to provide CIA Director Mike Pompeo and the White House with a global, private spy network that would circumvent official U.S. intelligence agencies, according to several current and former U.S. intelligence officials and others familiar with the proposals. The sources say the plans have been pitched to the White House as a means of countering “deep state” enemies in the intelligence community seeking to undermine Trump’s presidency.
The creation of such a program raises the possibility that the effort would be used to create an intelligence apparatus to justify the Trump administration’s political agenda.
“Pompeo can’t trust the CIA bureaucracy, so we need to create this thing that reports just directly to him,” said a former senior U.S. intelligence official with firsthand knowledge of the proposals, in describing White House discussions. “It is a direct-action arm, totally off the books,” this person said, meaning the intelligence collected would not be shared with the rest of the CIA or the larger intelligence community. “The whole point is this is supposed to report to the president and Pompeo directly.”
Oliver North, who appears frequently on Trump’s favorite TV network, Fox News, was enlisted to help sell the effort to the administration. He was the “ideological leader” brought in to lend credibility, said the former senior intelligence official.
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Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:49 pm
by morepork
What the fuck is wrong with rich people?
Surrounding himself with the best people, the most intelligent people. Insane levels of incompetence. History will not judge these idiots kindly.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:05 pm
by morepork
Erik Prince and Oliver North...fuck my days.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:16 pm
by Which Tyler
morepork wrote:Erik Prince and Oliver North...fuck my days.
Be fair - no-one at all can cite cases where states have a Secret Police and it ending badly...
Well, they CAN cite such cases; it's just... inadvisable to do so.
Re: Trump
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:15 pm
by kk67
There's a rather interesting John Pilger program on Al Jazeera tv at the moment entitled 'The coming war with China'.
Well worth a watch.
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:48 pm
by Digby
Trump has until now made a big play out of his drain the swamp narrative, and not come close to listening to the talking heads other than on Fox News. But now things are changing with his Middle East policy and he's spent a lot of time listening to talking heads, specifically burning down the house.
(and yes that line was getting crowbarred in come what may)
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:01 pm
by morepork
The master negotiator has been played into creating completely unnecessary tension in a context he simply does not understand. To top it off, he has his muppet character lookalike son in law spazzing around in an effort to "bring peace to the middle east".
What a cluster fuck.
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:03 pm
by Digby
It's not everyone who can segue from Jews will not replace us to recognising Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in just a few weeks, and do so looking like a tosser on both counts
Re: Trump
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:47 pm
by canta_brian
We should run a pool on which US embassy gets bombed first.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:34 am
by WaspInWales
I'm really struggling how some people are defending Trump's decision on 'modifying' the monuments.
The misinformed seem to be suggesting that Obama and Clinton carried out illegal land grabs, seemingly missing the point about preservation. Then they go on to suggest that people will be able to roam the parks...conveniently missing the fact that they already could roam.
Strangely no mention of private drilling though...
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:39 am
by WaspInWales
Not sure where to start on Trump being Israel's bitch though.
Astonishing display of ignorance, motivated by probable business interests.
Although I can't see it happening, it would be funny as fuck if King Salman reneged on his recent arms deal with the US.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:59 am
by morepork
WaspInWales wrote:I'm really struggling how some people are defending Trump's decision on 'modifying' the monuments.
The misinformed seem to be suggesting that Obama and Clinton carried out illegal land grabs, seemingly missing the point about preservation. Then they go on to suggest that people will be able to roam the parks...conveniently missing the fact that they already could roam.
Strangely no mention of private drilling though...
Cliched narrative spouted by paramilitary groups masquerading as ranchers. Everyone will get steamrollered when mining and oil companies lay waste to the land in a stunningly impulsive fit of deregulation. The fat man played like a fool again.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:12 pm
by WaspInWales
Most people thought that supporting Jerusalem as Israel's capital would harm the peace process, but yet Trump was adamant that it would help.
Lo and behold, the conflict has pretty much stopped and Israelis and Palestinians have settled their differences, downed their weapons and come together as human beings.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-42265337
The man is a genius.
Re: Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:28 pm
by Which Tyler
I guess we also need to give him credit on ISIS as well. He told us all he had a plan to sort them within 6 months, and now where are they? Okay, so that plan was to let Russia do whatever the F they liked with impunity, but still... it worked [/CYNIC]