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cashead wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:00 am


Yes. He did it twice.
I think it's safe to call him a fascist. Day one and we already have Nazi salutes.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... usk-salute
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cashead wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:00 am


Yes. He did it twice.



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That’s a spectacularly bad look. I can’t believe that anyone would be stupid enough to do that accidentally.
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Sandydragon wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:42 am
cashead wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:00 am

Yes. He did it twice.
That’s a spectacularly bad look. I can’t believe that anyone would be stupid enough to do that accidentally.
In a sane world Tesla's share price would tank. But in a sane America this guy would be nowhere near power.

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Is he not just demonstrating how great the economy is going to be?
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They knew what they were voting for. And here it comes.

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At least he’s sticking to his manifesto. A true democrat.
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Sandydragon wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:42 am
cashead wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:00 am
Yes. He did it twice.

https://bsky.app/profile/romanpalace.bs ... 5zpyhhnk27
That’s a spectacularly bad look. I can’t believe that anyone would be stupid enough to do that accidentally.
Exactly. It's no accident. The voting is done. He's finally brave enough to show the world that he doesn't just have fascistic leanings, he actually is a fascist.
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Lol, the ADL calls it a moment of exuberance. The pro Israel anti semites are the worst
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I hadn’t even considered there would be a worse angle than the ones above.

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I certainly hope the (promise of) cheap gasoline is worth it.
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paddy no 11 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:46 am Lol, the ADL calls it a moment of exuberance. The pro Israel anti semites are the worst
An exuberant expression of fascism.

Interesting times for Trump supporters who fancy themselves as being against antisemitism. I guess they'll brush it off after a second of cognitive dissonance. I see more cognitive dissonance in their future.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 11:22 am
paddy no 11 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:46 am Lol, the ADL calls it a moment of exuberance. The pro Israel anti semites are the worst
An exuberant expression of fascism.

Interesting times for Trump supporters who fancy themselves as being against antisemitism. I guess they'll brush it off after a second of cognitive dissonance. I see more cognitive dissonance in their future.
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Wouldn't all those Virginia tech guys chanting the Jews will not replace us be trump supporters?
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I'm trying to work out if Musk's admission of fascism is good or bad. I mean, obviously it's bad that he's a fascist (rather than merely a right wing dick), but given that he is, is it good or bad that he's revealed it to the world?

Positive:
It might cause a backlash, like people not buying Teslas, dropping X for good, ideally (if they had any sense) that's what the UK government should do, the world showing Musk that he is now toxic. This will happen to a degree but how much?
Negative:
Fascism becomes normalised (which is presumably Musk's intention), it gets explained away, laughed off, but is then easier to do again etc. We're already in a world where a genocide has taken place in plain sight but has been denied by most western nations.

I'm thinking, more likely on the negative side, but we shall see.
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Definitely negative there's zero blow back from it
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Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:00 am Is he not just demonstrating how great the economy is going to be?
Giving a fascist doing the fash salute the benefit of the doubt is not a good look. Knock this sort of shit off.
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Leopards already taking bites out of faces.

1. Denali in Alaska is to have its name revert back to Mt McKinley, in an immediate and petty "fuck you" to Native Americans. "Mt McKinley" is named for William McKinley, who signed the Curtis Act and extended the Dawes Act, designed to dehumanise and displace Native Americans. He will also be seeking to have the Gulf of Mexico renamed the "Gulf of America."

2. Were you involved in the Jan 6th Riots? Do you have criminal charges hanging over your head? Are you currently in prison for your actions on that day? Well, good news! You've all been pardoned or had your sentences commuted!

3. The US is withdrawing from the WHO because they "mishandled COVID-19." Right. This coming from Captain Bleach and Horse Paste.

4. Federal agencies and legal documents like passports are to use "sex" in the context of binary biological sex assigned at birth, rather than gender and gender identity, essentially opening a pathway to limit trans access to public facilities, school programmes and some recommended healthcare. This also targets intersex people, because fuck them too, I guess. Agencies are to to submit a review of the implementation of these policies to the Office of Management and Budget, to be chaired by Russell Vought, who is on record saying "transgender sewage [is] being pumped into our schools and institutions."

5. 2024 was the hottest year on record, so it is imperative that the US withdraw from the Paris Accords. Fuck the environment, woke-ass shit.

6. In a direct violation of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution, birthright citizenship is to be denied to millions. This is already being challenged in court.
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cashead wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:22 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:00 am Is he not just demonstrating how great the economy is going to be?
Giving a fascist doing the fash salute the benefit of the doubt is not a good look. Knock this sort of shit off.
I don’t have the energy for this. It was not a serious suggestion.
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Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 10:04 pm
cashead wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:22 pm
Mikey Brown wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:00 am Is he not just demonstrating how great the economy is going to be?
Giving a fascist doing the fash salute the benefit of the doubt is not a good look. Knock this sort of shit off.
I don’t have the energy for this. It was not a serious suggestion.
Yet you had the energy to make that worthless shitpost? There are ways of cracking jokes about the world's richest cringelord that aren't utter ass. The manner you chose to do it in is not one of them.
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Yes. Okay. Thank you. Have a nice evening.
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https://www.iflscience.com/trumps-execu ... male-77710
https://archive.is/wXkJz
Trump's Executive Order Against Trans People Technically Makes Every American Female
If you legislate with scientific words, you should know the science.


The text of the EO declares: “'Female' means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.” Linking sex and conception seems to bring anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ+ lingo together, but also demonstrates the lack of knowledge that at fertilization, and for many weeks after, every embryo is female. It's a point that people have been quick to raise online.

In the first few weeks after conception, all embryos look the same. We can call that state "unisex", but the basic blueprint is what we ascribe to female bodies – that’s why, for example, everyone has nipples and not just those people who might end up lactating (although everyone has the potential to do that).

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Does this mean that anyone who identifies as male, is technically (but only in USA) trans-male now?
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Which Tyler wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:02 am https://www.iflscience.com/trumps-execu ... male-77710
https://archive.is/wXkJz
Trump's Executive Order Against Trans People Technically Makes Every American Female
If you legislate with scientific words, you should know the science.


The text of the EO declares: “'Female' means a person belonging, at conception, to the sex that produces the large reproductive cell.” Linking sex and conception seems to bring anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ+ lingo together, but also demonstrates the lack of knowledge that at fertilization, and for many weeks after, every embryo is female. It's a point that people have been quick to raise online.

In the first few weeks after conception, all embryos look the same. We can call that state "unisex", but the basic blueprint is what we ascribe to female bodies – that’s why, for example, everyone has nipples and not just those people who might end up lactating (although everyone has the potential to do that).

ARTICLE CONTINUES
Does this mean that anyone who identifies as male, is technically (but only in USA) trans-male now?
It's almost as if those pricks don't understand science!


Meanwhile, the ADL bootlickers show their asses again.

https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403

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"He did an awkward gesture." And that gesture was a fucking fascist salute, you fucking idiots. And or course, like the bootlicking cowards that they are, they've restricted comments. Pathetic.

Someone hack into their offices and play this on loop over their speakers.

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paddy no 11 wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:21 pm Definitely negative there's zero blow back from it
One positive is that it makes life a bit harder for Farage and Badenoch to latch onto Musk's words, since they're the words of a fascist.

Less of a problem if the media pretends that it didn't happen though . . .
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cashead wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:23 am"He did an awkward gesture." And that gesture was a fucking fascist salute, you fucking idiots. And or course, like the bootlicking cowards that they are, they've restricted comments.
I'm seeing a lot, that it can't have been a nazi salute, because he touches his hand to his heart first, before throwing it out - it's obvious he's "giving his heart out" to the crowd - in a way that literally no-one has ever done before; and it's pure coincidence that it looks like a nazi salute (which IIRC, was in turn a variation of the Roman Salute).

The context to see is "Musk doesn't deny it, just says that the left call everyone a nazi" - almost word-for-word the sketch I posted yesterday.
The context to ignore is that Musk supports the Neo-Nazi party in Germany. Musk used X to foment racial violence in the UK. Musk is a big fan of mass deportations - completely unlike the nazi's, who merely wanted... mass deportations, before losing the Battle of Britain, and not getting safe shipping to... Madagascar?. Musk managed to get X banned in Brazil in large part because of his Nazi crap. X has become a Neo-Nazi haven under Musk. Musk tweets Neo-Nazi crap on X.
Look, just because he looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, flies like a duck, and is more comfortable in water than air or land... just because he just said quack, is pure coincidence, and only an idiot could think that maybe he's a duck.

FTR, you can see the difference between Musk's salute, and a nazi salute in this convenient side-by-side
https://www.threads.net/@jamescrockerrr ... FGEGH_xQfO

Now - is he a nazi, or "just" a wannabe edgelord, ally of nazis who enjoys mimicking nazis in order to troll his enemies? I've no idea. Neither speaks well of him, and neither means that his salute wasn't a variation of the Roman Salute.
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cashead wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:23 am Meanwhile, the ADL bootlickers show their asses again.

https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403

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"He did an awkward gesture." And that gesture was a fucking fascist salute, you fucking idiots. And or course, like the bootlicking cowards that they are, they've restricted comments. Pathetic.
The ADL, folks.

Anti-semitism: Fairly famous autistic woman Greta Thunberg owning an octopus squishie.
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Not anti-semitism:
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Which Tyler wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:55 amNow - is he a nazi, or "just" a wannabe edgelord, ally of nazis who enjoys mimicking nazis in order to troll his enemies? I've no idea. Neither speaks well of him, and neither means that his salute wasn't a variation of the Roman Salute.
I love the people who genuinely debate this, like there is any genuine difference. "He's not actually a Nazi; he just enjoys making people think he's a Nazi for the reactions it gets." Ummmm, great. Good job by him; I bought it completely.

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