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Digby wrote:It's not like Ireland asked many questions of Manu or our defence in general

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:It's not like Ireland asked many questions of Manu or our defence in general

.....your snowball is half drunk this morning. The key word was yesterday.



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Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:It's not like Ireland asked many questions of Manu or our defence in general

.....your snowball is half drunk this morning. The key word was yesterday.



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Ireland never really show much in open play for me absent of the opposition dropping lots of Murray's kicks but they have run some really well executed strike moves against us in the recent past, but we got nothing from them yesterday bar say some individual questions posed by such as Stockdale

Mellsblue wrote:I wonder if having an IC who is not an IC reined in Farrell a little bit. He might’ve been less inclined to hare out of the line if he knew Tuilagi might need some help positionally.

Stom wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:I wonder if having an IC who is not an IC reined in Farrell a little bit. He might’ve been less inclined to hare out of the line if he knew Tuilagi might need some help positionally.

Which still requires a refreshing and overdue maturity from him.

Mellsblue wrote:I wonder if having an IC who is not an IC reined in Farrell a little bit. He might’ve been less inclined to hare out of the line if he knew Tuilagi might need some help positionally.

Oakboy wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:I wonder if having an IC who is not an IC reined in Farrell a little bit. He might’ve been less inclined to hare out of the line if he knew Tuilagi might need some help positionally.

I've seen/heard some pundits suggesting that Farrell in his redesigned FH role is now running things well in terms of verbal instructions/leadership etc. Maybe they are right and it's a big part of the thinking. I'd guess you'd have to be on the touchline to know. I see nothing on TV to argue against it.

Banquo wrote:

Stom wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:I wonder if having an IC who is not an IC reined in Farrell a little bit. He might’ve been less inclined to hare out of the line if he knew Tuilagi might need some help positionally.

Which still requires a refreshing and overdue maturity from him.

I'd give coaches some credit here. Plan and roles looked well thought through to me.

Banquo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:I wonder if having an IC who is not an IC reined in Farrell a little bit. He might’ve been less inclined to hare out of the line if he knew Tuilagi might need some help positionally.

I've seen/heard some pundits suggesting that Farrell in his redesigned FH role is now running things well in terms of verbal instructions/leadership etc. Maybe they are right and it's a big part of the thinking. I'd guess you'd have to be on the touchline to know. I see nothing on TV to argue against it.

Plenty wrong with the communication tween Faz and Youngs.

Oakboy wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Epaminondas Pules wrote:
They did look pretty ropey. Scotland played well mind, but Italy look a long way off the other teams.

I thought Scotland were very patchy too.

After just the one round of games, the only non-patchy performance was ours. Compared with most of our wins under Jones, yesterday's performance stood out for a cracking start that was maintained over 80 minutes. Preparation was spot-on. I've hardly ever (if at all) said that about us since Jones took over.

It makes me wonder if Mitchell has made a big difference. I'm no expert on defence but was it fair to suggest that Tuilagi was well-coached? He has not looked that reliable defensively in any of the Leicester games that I have seen. Often, he can be a loose cannon, just as Farrell used to be at 12 before Mitchell's appointment.

Oakboy wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:
I've seen/heard some pundits suggesting that Farrell in his redesigned FH role is now running things well in terms of verbal instructions/leadership etc. Maybe they are right and it's a big part of the thinking. I'd guess you'd have to be on the touchline to know. I see nothing on TV to argue against it.

Plenty wrong with the communication tween Faz and Youngs.

True but most would suggest that is down to Youngs. As an aside, Youngs, Ford, Tuilagi and May all play together for Leicester where the backline (acceptedly with less than perfect ball from their forwards) does not exactly look slick. I think Youngs inflicts ceiling limitations and was disappointed that Robson got no game time. Why replace Care and then leave Youngs on? Care rarely sat the game out.

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Btw if any of you is feeling confident get some money on. Ireland are bizarrely massive favourites on the Betfair betting exchange. England are 3/1.

Banquo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:

Banquo wrote: Plenty wrong with the communication tween Faz and Youngs.

True but most would suggest that is down to Youngs. As an aside, Youngs, Ford, Tuilagi and May all play together for Leicester where the backline (acceptedly with less than perfect ball from their forwards) does not exactly look slick. I think Youngs inflicts ceiling limitations and was disappointed that Robson got no game time. Why replace Care and then leave Youngs on? Care rarely sat the game out.

Eh? He clearly was struggling to find Faz in the first half, and that's down to Faz.

Raggs wrote:Definitely thought after the intercept that Robson would be on. Great first cap. Still a bit of time to actually run around.

Epaminondas Pules wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:
True but most would suggest that is down to Youngs. As an aside, Youngs, Ford, Tuilagi and May all play together for Leicester where the backline (acceptedly with less than perfect ball from their forwards) does not exactly look slick. I think Youngs inflicts ceiling limitations and was disappointed that Robson got no game time. Why replace Care and then leave Youngs on? Care rarely sat the game out.

Eh? He clearly was struggling to find Faz in the first half, and that's down to Faz.

And fat lads being stood in the way at times.

Epaminondas Pules wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:
True but most would suggest that is down to Youngs. As an aside, Youngs, Ford, Tuilagi and May all play together for Leicester where the backline (acceptedly with less than perfect ball from their forwards) does not exactly look slick. I think Youngs inflicts ceiling limitations and was disappointed that Robson got no game time. Why replace Care and then leave Youngs on? Care rarely sat the game out.

Eh? He clearly was struggling to find Faz in the first half, and that's down to Faz.

And fat lads being stood in the way at times.

morepork wrote:

Epaminondas Pules wrote:

Banquo wrote: Eh? He clearly was struggling to find Faz in the first half, and that's down to Faz.

And fat lads being stood in the way at times.

Both of them are comical in broken play.

Gloskarlos wrote:You would think after years of box kicking practise he would realise when his chaser is at the bottom of a ruck right at his very feet, not dally for an eternity, then sticking one up anyway...... thinking that’s his best option.

Gloskarlos wrote:You would think after years of box kicking practise he would realise when his chaser is at the bottom of a ruck right at his very feet, not dally for an eternity, then sticking one up anyway...... thinking that’s his best option.

Raggs wrote:

Gloskarlos wrote:You would think after years of box kicking practise he would realise when his chaser is at the bottom of a ruck right at his very feet, not dally for an eternity, then sticking one up anyway...... thinking that’s his best option.

Thing is, I was watching for that, and at least twice before, he deliberately ran another phase, just so May could get up off the floor from the previous one, then checked he was in position. Then he decides not to bother for that one.

Digby wrote:

Raggs wrote:

Gloskarlos wrote:You would think after years of box kicking practise he would realise when his chaser is at the bottom of a ruck right at his very feet, not dally for an eternity, then sticking one up anyway...... thinking that’s his best option.

Thing is, I was watching for that, and at least twice before, he deliberately ran another phase, just so May could get up off the floor from the previous one, then checked he was in position. Then he decides not to bother for that one.

He did indeed seem to be checking much more than he has in the past before box kicking