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Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:15 pm
by twitchy
Possibly but I was watching connected by ethernet cable. I watch loads of bt sport and get a spotless hd picture from them I can't remember the last time I had an issue.

It seemed it was their live feed from the stadium which was bad. What made me notice the difference was watching a spotty sd picture and then at half time when it cut to the advert break it was full hd.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:19 pm
by Mellsblue
My picture quality was perfect, unfortunately.....

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:32 pm
by Shiny
Mellsblue wrote:My picture quality was perfect, unfortunately.....
Yeah, my picture was good as well, no complaints. The commentary wasn't bad either. Better than the BBC and ITV on their first go.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:36 pm
by Scrumhead
Agreed. Fine for me too.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:47 pm
by Mellsblue
Shiny wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:My picture quality was perfect, unfortunately.....
Yeah, my picture was good as well, no complaints. The commentary wasn't bad either. Better than the BBC and ITV on their first go.
Yep. Flatman was pretty much the only entertainment to be had.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:54 pm
by Raggs
Puja wrote:
twitchy wrote:I'm glad I wasn't the only one that problems with amazon's feed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... land-side/

"I have superfast broadband and a 4K Smart TV with a specific Prime app and I still had viewing problems. They did not stop me seeing the games but the ball pixelating, odd-coloured grass and things going in a slow, jerky motion were enough to be annoying"
As someone who has worked tech support, I am literally compelled to point out the massive hole in that statement quoted. Superfast broadband, check. 4k Smart TV, check. What connects the two together? If the answer is, "A wireless router that is across the other side of the house, safely concealed behind three solid walls, and which was simultaneously being accessed by three teenagers playing games," then I have an answer for Brian Moore as to why the picture wasn't great.

It's more than likely that there were actual problems with Amazon, but I'm willing to bet a lot of the complaining being done is because of things which aren't their fault.

Puja
I had some drops in the picture quality, firestick is wired into the modem. Suspect it was amazon, since whilst I don't have the best broadband, it's good enough to normally stream two things. I'm hopeful that it'll improve. Was happy with commentary though.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:01 pm
by Peej
Has anyone else seen the delightful balls up Amazon made online when they told customers they couldn't watch in Norn Iron because their rights "only cover the UK, not Ireland"?

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:09 pm
by Mellsblue
Peej wrote:Has anyone else seen the delightful balls up Amazon made online when they told customers they couldn't watch in Norn Iron because their rights "only cover the UK, not Ireland"?
Ha, yep. From what I’ve seen they kept on doubling/digging down, too.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:13 pm
by Puja
Mellsblue wrote:
Peej wrote:Has anyone else seen the delightful balls up Amazon made online when they told customers they couldn't watch in Norn Iron because their rights "only cover the UK, not Ireland"?
Ha, yep. From what I’ve seen they kept on doubling/digging down, too.
Excellent example of why having AI and overseas run your customer support is not always ideal!

Puja

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:27 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:
twitchy wrote:I'm glad I wasn't the only one that problems with amazon's feed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... land-side/

"I have superfast broadband and a 4K Smart TV with a specific Prime app and I still had viewing problems. They did not stop me seeing the games but the ball pixelating, odd-coloured grass and things going in a slow, jerky motion were enough to be annoying"
As someone who has worked tech support, I am literally compelled to point out the massive hole in that statement quoted. Superfast broadband, check. 4k Smart TV, check. What connects the two together? If the answer is, "A wireless router that is across the other side of the house, safely concealed behind three solid walls, and which was simultaneously being accessed by three teenagers playing games," then I have an answer for Brian Moore as to why the picture wasn't great.

It's more than likely that there were actual problems with Amazon, but I'm willing to bet a lot of the complaining being done is because of things which aren't their fault.

Puja
Mine was absolutely fine. Wireless router and booster in same room undoubtedly helps.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:28 pm
by twitchy
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Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:29 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Puja wrote:
So what's your problem with the words I put in your mouth then? You think it's an excellent legal tackle and not reckless at all.

I'm just baffled how we can have several years of lambasting Farrell's technique with, "He'll get in trouble for that one day," and not have a problem with BillyV launching himself at the very pinnacle of someone's shoulder.

Puja
Maybe, a one-off (Billy) is on the edge but a series (Farrell) is an accident waiting to happen?
See, that I can understand. I still rate it as a lucky tackle rather than a good one, but can completely acknowledge that he doesn't have form. Hopefully it'll get picked up in video analysis and he'll be encouraged to go a touch lower.

Puja
Which I also said. The harder you practice the luckier you get btw :lol:

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:46 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:
Oakboy wrote:
Maybe, a one-off (Billy) is on the edge but a series (Farrell) is an accident waiting to happen?
See, that I can understand. I still rate it as a lucky tackle rather than a good one, but can completely acknowledge that he doesn't have form. Hopefully it'll get picked up in video analysis and he'll be encouraged to go a touch lower.

Puja
Which I also said. The harder you practice the luckier you get btw :lol:
Given my point was that it wasn't in his control whether the opposition player flinched and lowered his height by the 4cm needed to turn it into a red card, his amount of practice seems largely irrelevant. It's a foolish and needless risk and so I can't reasonably laud it as good play, as you do. But, each to their own.

Puja

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:51 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote:
Banquo wrote:
Puja wrote:
See, that I can understand. I still rate it as a lucky tackle rather than a good one, but can completely acknowledge that he doesn't have form. Hopefully it'll get picked up in video analysis and he'll be encouraged to go a touch lower.

Puja
Which I also said. The harder you practice the luckier you get btw :lol:
Given my point was that it wasn't in his control whether the opposition player flinched and lowered his height by the 4cm needed to turn it into a red card, his amount of practice seems largely irrelevant. It's a foolish and needless risk and so I can't reasonably laud it as good play, as you do. But, each to their own.

Puja
All I did was dangle a fly.

You are just restating opinion as fact and as I said that’s your prerogative.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:00 pm
by Peej
Does anyone think that Johnny Hill might have his place at risk over the idea that he may have blotted his copybook with that yellow card against Italy?

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:37 pm
by Digby
Peej wrote:Does anyone think that Johnny Hill might have his place at risk over the idea that he may have blotted his copybook with that yellow card against Italy?
Nope. Not as a one off.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:52 pm
by Shiny
Peej wrote:Does anyone think that Johnny Hill might have his place at risk over the idea that he may have blotted his copybook with that yellow card against Italy?
I doubt it otherwise half the England team would not be playing.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 7:06 pm
by Beasties
Raggs wrote:
Puja wrote:
twitchy wrote:I'm glad I wasn't the only one that problems with amazon's feed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union ... land-side/

"I have superfast broadband and a 4K Smart TV with a specific Prime app and I still had viewing problems. They did not stop me seeing the games but the ball pixelating, odd-coloured grass and things going in a slow, jerky motion were enough to be annoying"
As someone who has worked tech support, I am literally compelled to point out the massive hole in that statement quoted. Superfast broadband, check. 4k Smart TV, check. What connects the two together? If the answer is, "A wireless router that is across the other side of the house, safely concealed behind three solid walls, and which was simultaneously being accessed by three teenagers playing games," then I have an answer for Brian Moore as to why the picture wasn't great.

It's more than likely that there were actual problems with Amazon, but I'm willing to bet a lot of the complaining being done is because of things which aren't their fault.

Puja
I had some drops in the picture quality, firestick is wired into the modem. Suspect it was amazon, since whilst I don't have the best broadband, it's good enough to normally stream two things. I'm hopeful that it'll improve. Was happy with commentary though.
Ethernet here plugged into Fire box. Don't normally have problems streaming anything. Picture was generally fine during the game except during the wide moving pans following the ball. They were juddery for some reason, not something I've ever had before with my set-up.

Flats was good value as always, by a mile our best commentator.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:19 am
by Scrumhead
Puja wrote:
jngf wrote:
Scrumhead wrote:
Err ... because he is pretty much universally regarded as our best flanker ...


I don’t know how to do a poll on this forum, but I feel pretty confident that more or less everyone on this board apart from you would pretty emphatically vote for Tom Curry as England’s best flanker.

Willis has the potential to be as good, but at this point in time, he has 45mins of test rugby under his belt. Underhill is very good in certain aspects of the game but simply isn’t as good a player/as well rounded as Curry. No-one else would be likely to feature in that conversation.

Are you now going to try to tell me Ludlam is better than Curry based upon some highlights you watched?

Is this your data driven assertion again? - ‘universally‘ is a broad nay sweeping claim to make on behalf of something.
The fact that not a single other person on the board apart from you has disagreed that Curry is the best flanker available to England speaks volumes.

Puja
Still no one ...

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:42 am
by Oakboy
Pillorying poor old jngf is all very well but maybe we should have been more critical of Jones. After all, he played our best flanker at No 8.

Mind you, he plays our best winger at FB, often picks a lock at 6, refuses to give anyone significant game time at 9, never substitutes Farrell and . . .

Just saying! ;)

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:53 am
by Raggs
Personally felt that Curry was perfectly adequate off the base in attack and brings an advantage in defence with greater speed and jackaling from 8 ( i feel 8 is the perfect position to jackal over an opposition 8 carry).

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:20 am
by Banquo
Raggs wrote:Personally felt that Curry was perfectly adequate off the base in attack and brings an advantage in defence with greater speed and jackaling from 8 ( i feel 8 is the perfect position to jackal over an opposition 8 carry).
Adequate just about covers him at 8.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:22 am
by Stom
Banquo wrote:
Raggs wrote:Personally felt that Curry was perfectly adequate off the base in attack and brings an advantage in defence with greater speed and jackaling from 8 ( i feel 8 is the perfect position to jackal over an opposition 8 carry).
Adequate just about covers him at 8.
I think he serves a purpose at 8 but I feel like Willis could do that better...

Curry is just excellent, really. I can't wait to see him and Willis together.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:40 am
by Raggs
Banquo wrote:
Raggs wrote:Personally felt that Curry was perfectly adequate off the base in attack and brings an advantage in defence with greater speed and jackaling from 8 ( i feel 8 is the perfect position to jackal over an opposition 8 carry).
Adequate just about covers him at 8.
He's adequate at doing the key 8 role of controlling at the back, but he's still exceptional around the pitch. It's not like the moment you put the 8 shirt on him, he's not allowed to do any of the roles he fulfilled in the 6.

Re: vs Georgia

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:58 am
by Scrumhead
Agreed. I’d much rather see him on the flanks, but let’s not pretend he was a disaster at 8. He wasn’t.

I’m not ‘pillorying’ jngf, but when asked to give some justification for his outlying opinions, he has nothing to offer ...