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Sandydragon wrote:

rowan wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:I don't understand this. Davis basically said she was ugly - 'I'm not blind' and 'would make a good Optical Express advert' - after being told to 'f**k off' when asking for a hug after she voted with the govt on article 50 (must find out which migraine tablets she uses). Is this now sexist and racist? I don't find her even remotely attractive. Does that make me both racist and sexist? If someone jokingly told me I'd tried to make a pass at her I'd respond with a joke that I don't find her even remotely attractive. I'll go out on a limb and say that I think she's ugly. Are we now not allowed to say if we find someone ugly if they are a different sex and skin colour? I also think David Davis is ugly. Does this make racist and sexist, too?
This wouldn't have even caused a ripple if it involved Andrea Leadsom.

Do you know of any instances of white or male politicians being ridiculed over their physical appearance?

Neil Kinnock. A bald Welsh windbag.
William Hague. Bald.
Ed Milligan. Geek who couldn't eat a bacon sandwich .

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

rowan wrote:
Do you know of any instances of white or male politicians being ridiculed over their physical appearance?

Neil Kinnock. A bald Welsh windbag.
William Hague. Bald.
Ed Milligan. Geek who couldn't eat a bacon sandwich .

Eric Pickles just can't catch a break, mostly as he's a fat bastard and he's too slow, but he should still sneak on a list of those mocked for their appearance

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: Neil Kinnock. A bald Welsh windbag.
William Hague. Bald.
Ed Milligan. Geek who couldn't eat a bacon sandwich .

Eric Pickles just can't catch a break, mostly as he's a fat bastard and he's too slow, but he should still sneak on a list of those mocked for their appearance

Like I say the list is pretty endless. Let's not forget Tony 'torso of the week' Blair (or is this ok), Michael Gove, John Prescott. There's not much I find to praise Corbyn about but his retort to Cameron's mother's suggestion he smarten himself up during Cameron's last PMQ's was top draw.
I go to an annual dinner near where I live that is always attended by the local MP with another MP as guest speaker. When the compere introduces the guest MP there is always a comparison of ranking on sexymp.co.uk. The local MP hasn't won one yet. The compere is hilarious but sexist.

BBD wrote:Quiz time!

Name the politician

onlynameleft wrote:Anyone remember the stick Roy Hattersley used to get?

BBD wrote:Quiz time!

Name the politician

Sandydragon wrote:

onlynameleft wrote:Anyone remember the stick Roy Hattersley used to get?

On spitting image, definitely.

cashead wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

cashead wrote: Because no one is as underprivileged as white men.

I'll say once again, feel free to read up on white male privilege.

Honestly, if you can't see how fucked up it is that a white male sees fit to immediately attack a black woman over her appearance because she had the temerity to tell him to fuck off, I don't know what else can be said to you.

Have a look at the % of white men going to uni and get back to me.

Are you honestly trying to suggest white men are now a minority on UK campuses? It's pretty easy to disprove such a notion when the universities themselves make their student demographic statistics publicly available.

Mellsblue wrote:However, that misses the point. The jump from she's ugly to he's sexist is ridiculous. As I've said, there are so many serious cases of sexism, racism, homophobia etc etc (see the current issues in the synod that will probably get less airtime than Davis' texts) that to make a song and dance about this belittles the serious issues.

As for him 'immediately' attacking her. It was a joking, private text later that evening. A text conversation he didn't even initiate. If he'd immediately responded 'I wouldn't hug you anyway you fat bitch' I could understand the uproar but this is nothing.

Perhaps you could call me a c**t?

Because making a joke about someone's appearance behind their back isn't offensive, right? Honestly "it's a joke, get a humour" is a stupid fucking argument because it isn't even one.

Honestly, if you don't get why a white male critiquing a woman over her appearance is veering into sexism, and refuse to read up on why, there really is no point because you never will get it.

BBD wrote:Aren't many children's nursery rhymes originally poking fun at political and prominent public figures of the day?
I don't think the inspiration for Humpty Dumpty or little jack Horner would have been pleased by the unflattering descriptions but it shows that whether it's a political cartoon, of someone famous, someone who might be considered immune eg captain James cook for example or Peter cook doing his Harold McMillan impression at the establishment in the 60's or even have I got news for you/spitting image, public figures have a target on their back, it's part of the deal. Getting offended and crying foul rarely achieves the desired result in the long term, it just lets people know they can get to you

Sandydragon wrote:Didn't spitting image routinely portray a labour politician as a slug?

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:Didn't spitting image routinely portray a labour politician as a slug?

I thought that was Kenneth Baker, who isn't exactly Labour to his core

rowan wrote:Perhaps after Brexit the UK could apply to become the 51st state of America . . .

rowan wrote:Well, for one thing, I see that Coalition of the Killing deputy sheriff Tony Bliar is still having a lot to say about things . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -up-brexit

Stones of granite wrote:

rowan wrote:Well, for one thing, I see that Coalition of the Killing deputy sheriff Tony Bliar is still having a lot to say about things . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -up-brexit

I'm not following your logic here. Please explain.

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

rowan wrote:Well, for one thing, I see that Coalition of the Killing deputy sheriff Tony Bliar is still having a lot to say about things . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -up-brexit

I'm not following your logic here. Please explain.

This seems easy. Trump is in favour of an EU fallout to make Russia more pre-eminent in Europe and Blair wants the UK to stay in the EU, if you can't see how those tie together you're just not reading news in Turkish it would seem. Some allowance is needed there such one should read Turkish as Gibberish, but still the logic is clear

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote: I'm not following your logic here. Please explain.

This seems easy. Trump is in favour of an EU fallout to make Russia more pre-eminent in Europe and Blair wants the UK to stay in the EU, if you can't see how those tie together you're just not reading news in Turkish it would seem. Some allowance is needed there such one should read Turkish as Gibberish, but still the logic is clear

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. I had asked Rowan to explain the reasoning behind his suggestion that the UK should apply to become the 51st US state. I thought that post was part of it, possibly not.

So with the lack of any explanation it seems it was just another bit of brainless polemic.

rowan wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:
This seems easy. Trump is in favour of an EU fallout to make Russia more pre-eminent in Europe and Blair wants the UK to stay in the EU, if you can't see how those tie together you're just not reading news in Turkish it would seem. Some allowance is needed there such one should read Turkish as Gibberish, but still the logic is clear

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding. I had asked Rowan to explain the reasoning behind his suggestion that the UK should apply to become the 51st US state. I thought that post was part of it, possibly not.

So with the lack of any explanation it seems it was just another bit of brainless polemic.

Tongue-in-cheek, Stones. Stop being such a serious idiot. But I'm actually too busy to enter an argument with you about it now anyway.