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He doesn’t like the Germans either, now!!! Is there any nation he hasn’t insulted.
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Myanmar?
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The revolution has started guys:
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-suppor ... t-11205566

Get yourselves tooled up!

Trump will be tweeting that millions* of people have taken to the streets in London in support of him.

* - Definitely more than at Obama's inauguration anyway.
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Mellsblue wrote:He doesn’t like the Germans either, now!!! Is there any nation he hasn’t insulted.
Russia - that one was love at first oligarch
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Which Tyler wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:He doesn’t like the Germans either, now!!! Is there any nation he hasn’t insulted.
Russia - that one was love at first oligarch
Somebody is bound to piss on this parade
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Digby wrote:
Which Tyler wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:He doesn’t like the Germans either, now!!! Is there any nation he hasn’t insulted.
Russia - that one was love at first oligarch
Somebody is bound to piss on this parade
I thought some prostitutes already had... on golden sheets... and a video of it somewhere.
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The reactionary president. A throwback to the coal-powered eugenicists of yesteryear, and considerably less informed than many of his political predecessors from decades ago.

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/13/57780879 ... ical-prece
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Lol. People power

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My favourite was someone projecting ‘shithole’ above the entrance of Trumper’s hotel in DC.
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Upon googling the below image, it seems this a regular occurance.
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cashead wrote:
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Mellsblue wrote: Yep, it’s only minor stuff. But a few of those is all that’s needed to undermine the whole thing.

Yeah, 'cos the intelligence, poise and understated sophistication with with Trump conducts himself totally refute those claims.
The errors can easily be attributed to the fact that the editing period of it was probably brutally cut short by the publisher's decision to speed up the publication date thanks to what was a likely bigger than expected anti-endorsement by the White House. Had it been published a few months from now, as planned, without all the ballyhoo of the White House shitting on it, probably would've died a quiet death.
I would say there are structural problems that you'd think would be highlighted more than the little errors that would've been picked up in a less hurried editing and publishing period, like the non-Bannon stuff, where it's hard to ascertain whether or not it's second or third-hand recollection to Wolff that he's quoting.
Ultimately though, while it's not probably going to bring down the White House or anything, it's ended up having the impact its had, largely due to the fact that it provides something concrete to legitimise what many observers think about the Trump White House and this dumpsterfire of a presidency.
The errors are matters of fact, eg x can’t have been in the White House at that time because he’s documented as being at y. Admittedly, they are few and far between.
Things like that will undermine any fact based book. Now, it obviously won’t worry the haters on here who already believe he’s useless and slight unhinged, which includes me, but those who may think he’s doing an ok job but might be swayed may think they can’t necessarily trust all that’s in there as some facts have proved to be false. At best they’ll treat it all with some scepticism.
It’s similar to a research project, if even a small minority of results are proven to have been falsified the entire project can be undermined.
You just need to be whiter than white with this sort of thing, as you know all of Trumps supporters will be saying well if x, y and z are false so how can you trust the rest.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42685356
President Donald Trump has denied that he is racist, after a row broke out over his alleged use of the word "shithole" to describe African nations.

Mr Trump reportedly used the term last week during a bipartisan Oval Office meeting on immigration reform.

He has now told reporters: "I am not a racist. I'm the least racist person you have ever interviewed."
He just can't help himself can he. He could so easily have left it at the first sentence, and just been a case of "he said, she said"; but then he has go and blow his own trumpet and make a mockery of himself... again.
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Mellsblue wrote: You just need to be whiter than white with this sort of thing, as you know all of Trumps supporters will be saying
That is indeed what they say, though Trump is presently saying he's not only not racist but he's the best at not being racist
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The least racist person in the world is honoring the memory of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. today by playing golf at a private Florida wot he owns. These are, 'ow you say in Enlglish....."bad optics"?
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Yes, very disrespectful to MLK. But African-American support for Trump has actually doubled over the past year as unemployment for African-Americans hits a record low - largely due to his crackdown on illegal immigrants.
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Wow, that's completely different to this: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... sm-claims/

I found it a bit hard to believe too, although it stands to reason that cracking down on illegal immigrants would create more jobs for unskilled labor, and we know who's at the bottom of the socio-economic scale in the US.
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rowan wrote:Yes, very disrespectful to MLK. But African-American support for Trump has actually doubled over the past year as unemployment for African-Americans hits a record low - largely due to his crackdown on illegal immigrants.

Sorry mate, that is simply not true. There has been no legislation enacted that changes immigration laws. The most acute effects have been seen in a reduction in petitions for H1-B and L-1 Visas. In other words, legal immigration. Even that is restricted to EOs and "directives". No policy has been enacted as of yet. DACA is still active. As for African American support....that is not what is happening on the ground in the real world over here, I can assure you. Frankly, I'm a bit taken aback by your referencing Brietbart, a known white supremacist mouthpiece.
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I came across the article while reading about the NFL and it was backed up by other articles on the net. I think I've said before I'm not a fan of Molyneux in general, but he does some interesting shows on gender issues and breaks down a few barriers.

Meanwhile, you have referenced the NY Times, one of the major redneck, warmongering propaganda journals on the planet. :roll: :roll:
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You were the one who introduced quick google searches to the discussion. & then you cited the New York Times :!: If it hadn't been for racist propagandists like the NY Times the genocidal invasion of Iraq could never have gone ahead. & they are completely racist and deceptive on the Israel-Palestine conflict. Fancy citing a racist warmongering propaganda sheet as your sauce. Dear me! :roll:
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Just keep quoting the New York "Let's Go to War with Iraq over WOMDs" Times for us, Hapless :lol:

In fact, Trump's presidency has so far gone much as expected. His brash, obnoxious personality makes no attempt to hide the truly hideous nature of American foreign policy, but he has followed through on his campaign pledge to wind down the war in Syria and stop funding anti-gov't terrorism. While the conflict is far from over, like its counterpart across the border in Iraq, it appears to be headed in that direction. Trump's arrogant stance on Jerusalem, meanwhile, has brought the issue to the world's attention and heightened international opposition to Zionist colonization. Truth is, Jerusalem has long been Israel's capital in all but name; they just kept it secret. I don't follow America's domestic politics as closely, but the reports I've stumbled across seem to indicate Trump's economic policies have begun to bear fruit. I'm no fan of the orange buffoon himself, but I think the dems would've done a lot worse and we'd still have a fully-fledged war raging in Syria.
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Hapless thinks he's Tom Cruise in The Firm :lol:

What the rest of the world sees:

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morepork wrote:
rowan wrote:Yes, very disrespectful to MLK. But African-American support for Trump has actually doubled over the past year as unemployment for African-Americans hits a record low - largely due to his crackdown on illegal immigrants.

Sorry mate, that is simply not true. There has been no legislation enacted that changes immigration laws. The most acute effects have been seen in a reduction in petitions for H1-B and L-1 Visas. In other words, legal immigration. Even that is restricted to EOs and "directives". No policy has been enacted as of yet. DACA is still active. As for African American support....that is not what is happening on the ground in the real world over here, I can assure you. Frankly, I'm a bit taken aback by your referencing Brietbart, a known white supremacist mouthpiece.
There may be no formal actions taken, but our company has a number of South American Engineers on L-1 visas - all of them highly skilled and well qualified (at last Batchelor degree) people. One has had renewal of his visa refused, although fortunately he has Canadian residency so can work from our Calgary office, and the others are twitching that their renewals will also be refused. It seems that there is some informal interference in the process.
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Rowan, if you are simply going to move goal posts around the fact that you are defending swallowing the Breitbart propaganda by crticising others on here for swallowing information about a topic unrelated to the one you initiated then you should probably just jog on. I'm not so sure about the scaling down of activities in Syria either. The US has recently initiated the training and arming of a small army of Kurds to get in the fight. Turkey is loving that. They have also sold a lot of ordinance to the Saudis in the last year. That should stabilise things in the region nicely. Regardless of all this, the Trumpet has stirred up the ugly side of American race relations domestically in a profoundly unconstructive way, and it is not because he is brash and obnoxious so much as because he is racist and stupid. Qualifying this because it pisses off the status quo is just as fucking stupid, although I'm sure you'll fire off a pithy patronising counter to this using an entirely unrelated point to keep me chasing those posts.

Stones....yeah I have noticed the twitchy thing with a few students and scientists sweating it out at work. Twitchy is not exactly a directed policy though, and Trump has very little to do with anything concrete other than making it abundantly clear that informal interference is more likely in cases involving persons from nations that are not white.
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I'm not defending Breitbart content at all. This is entirely an invention of your own warped imagination. I read an article which, as earlier stated, I founded surprising and shared the information here because it appeared relevant to your previous point (re MLK) which I had agreed with. If Breitbart is not a good source, so be it. Perhaps that information was misleading. I'm not actually familiar with the publication and was initially only there to read about the NFL playoffs. But the NY Times is a notorious propaganda sheet; that I do know. The problem with this political forum is you are all so narrow-minded and just itching to attack anyone who does not agree with you. That's why I've barely touched it for the past several months. It all ends up with ad hominems, ridiculing each other's sources and going around in circles. Talk about big fish in a minuscule pond!

I am well aware of what is going on in Syria, however, particularly with regards to Turkey since I am reading about it in Turkish and English every day, watching it on the TV news (in Turkish) every day, and talking about it with Turks, Arabs and foreigners on a regular basis as well. So I know all about the US & the YPG and Turkey's objections to it. But this looks more like a side-issue between the NATO allies themselves, with the Kurdish factor built in, rather than a continuation of the main conflict which involved NATO et al arming and training rebels/terrorists to overthrow the government (and effectively destroy another Middle Eastern country not previously under their control), which is definitely winding down. In fact, some here think the US-Turkey spat may just be a pretext to keep troops in the oil-rich north of the country, where both nations are operating outside of international law, of course. Trump is a lot of things but he's definitely not stupid. It's all part of the performance and you've obviously been fooled by it.
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