Numbers wrote:Anyone see the ITV PPV bill on Saturday, if not my synopsis is:
Andrew Selby - Won every single round against a fighter who has had three world title fights, looks ready for a title shot (preferrably not against Zou Shiming).
David Price - Really, he's hopeless, he was blowing badly by the 5th round and proves he has nothing in the way of punch resistance.
Ryder v Etches - Etches overhyped, no evidence of why he had an 85% knockout rate as he didn't trouble Ryder at all, but then Etches hasn't beaten anyone of any note throughout his career. Ryder looked solid as usual, not World level by any means.
Eubank Jr - A very solid display, showed great speed and good punching accuracy, didn't really get caught at all in the fight. The only reason for him to have moved to SM was to avoid Golovkin (understandably), the problem being he doesn't have the power at SM and is more naturally a Middleweight. He may win a few fights but I suspect he will come unstuck against a genuine SM.
Kid Galahad - Re-arranged opponent who was hopeless so nothing can be gleaned from the fight.
Nice round up.
When a better SMW "touches" Eubank we'll find out more. Better fighters will hit him more, tie him up more and generally make it far harder for him. I had to laugh at him pretending the IBO belt is a real world title that will get him fights with DeGale etc. Stick him in with Abraham.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:10 pm
by Discreet Hooker
Big D wrote:
Numbers wrote:Anyone see the ITV PPV bill on Saturday, if not my synopsis is:
Andrew Selby - Won every single round against a fighter who has had three world title fights, looks ready for a title shot (preferrably not against Zou Shiming).
David Price - Really, he's hopeless, he was blowing badly by the 5th round and proves he has nothing in the way of punch resistance.
Ryder v Etches - Etches overhyped, no evidence of why he had an 85% knockout rate as he didn't trouble Ryder at all, but then Etches hasn't beaten anyone of any note throughout his career. Ryder looked solid as usual, not World level by any means.
Eubank Jr - A very solid display, showed great speed and good punching accuracy, didn't really get caught at all in the fight. The only reason for him to have moved to SM was to avoid Golovkin (understandably), the problem being he doesn't have the power at SM and is more naturally a Middleweight. He may win a few fights but I suspect he will come unstuck against a genuine SM.
Kid Galahad - Re-arranged opponent who was hopeless so nothing can be gleaned from the fight.
Nice round up.
When a better SMW "touches" Eubank we'll find out more. Better fighters will hit him more, tie him up more and generally make it far harder for him. I had to laugh at him pretending the IBO belt is a real world title that will get him fights with DeGale etc. Stick him in with Abraham.
Hard to like ain't he ? He has spared us his dads gobbledekook Ingerlush tho' .
Re: Boxing
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:08 pm
by Numbers
I saw Deontay Wilder fight on Saturday night and he is looking quite menacing, a fight with Joshua would be very explosive.
Gavin McDonnel lost but gave a decent account of himself in a WBA Superbantamweight title shot, one judge had it as a draw, the other two rightly with a four point gap.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:49 am
by Lord Lucan
Did anyone see the Haye v Bellew press conference in Liverpool this week? It was hilarious, there were hundreds of scousers in attendance who took the piss throughout and barracked everyone involved, apart for Bellew and another scouse fighter. Nearly everyone who took to the mic were greeted with the football chat " who the fuck, who the fuck, who the fucking hell are you."
Haye thinks its funny until its his turn, he ends up losing the plot, calling the crowd "fucking retards." brilliant.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:42 pm
by Numbers
Lord Lucan wrote:Did anyone see the Haye v Bellew press conference in Liverpool this week? It was hilarious, there were hundreds of scousers in attendance who took the piss throughout and barracked everyone involved, apart for Bellew and another scouse fighter. Nearly everyone who took to the mic were greeted with the football chat " who the fuck, who the fuck, who the fucking hell are you."
Haye thinks its funny until its his turn, he ends up losing the plot, calling the crowd "fucking retards." brilliant.
I am quite looking forward to Bellew getting tuned I have to say.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:17 pm
by Big D
Numbers wrote:
I am quite looking forward to Bellew getting tuned I have to say.
He's mostly been on the money about Haye to be fair. Haye will KO him but that doesn't make him wrong. It is interesting that Haye will be coming in pretty light I expect him to hit and move a lot, Bellew may be worse than him but I think he carries enough power to hurt Haye if he lands one flush.
I reckon Haye to be knocked down and win at 5/1 is a decent shout. As is both fighters to go down at 5/1.
16/1 for the fight to finish in minute 3 looks interesting.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:29 pm
by Numbers
Big D wrote:
Numbers wrote:
I am quite looking forward to Bellew getting tuned I have to say.
He's mostly been on the money about Haye to be fair. Haye will KO him but that doesn't make him wrong. It is interesting that Haye will be coming in pretty light I expect him to hit and move a lot, Bellew may be worse than him but I think he carries enough power to hurt Haye if he lands one flush.
I reckon Haye to be knocked down and win at 5/1 is a decent shout. As is both fighters to go down at 5/1.
16/1 for the fight to finish in minute 3 looks interesting.
I like the look of the 16/1, I can't see Bellew knocking Haye down, I would think a KO in 3 or 4 for Haye.
The only way Bellew has a hope is if Haye gets injured.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:39 pm
by Discreet Hooker
Numbers wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Did anyone see the Haye v Bellew press conference in Liverpool this week? It was hilarious, there were hundreds of scousers in attendance who took the piss throughout and barracked everyone involved, apart for Bellew and another scouse fighter. Nearly everyone who took to the mic were greeted with the football chat " who the fuck, who the fuck, who the fucking hell are you."
Haye thinks its funny until its his turn, he ends up losing the plot, calling the crowd "fucking retards." brilliant.
I am quite looking forward to Bellew getting tuned I have to say.
We have now reached Jeremy Kyle level in boxing . WTF was this meeting ever held ? Fking heavyweights .
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:49 pm
by Big D
Numbers wrote:
Big D wrote:
Numbers wrote:
I am quite looking forward to Bellew getting tuned I have to say.
He's mostly been on the money about Haye to be fair. Haye will KO him but that doesn't make him wrong. It is interesting that Haye will be coming in pretty light I expect him to hit and move a lot, Bellew may be worse than him but I think he carries enough power to hurt Haye if he lands one flush.
I reckon Haye to be knocked down and win at 5/1 is a decent shout. As is both fighters to go down at 5/1.
16/1 for the fight to finish in minute 3 looks interesting.
I like the look of the 16/1, I can't see Bellew knocking Haye down, I would think a KO in 3 or 4 for Haye.
The only way Bellew has a hope is if Haye gets injured.
I agree with the bit on bold.
Reason it wouldn't surprise me if Bellew knocks him down is that Haye has been down before (although it was years and years ago) but barring Klitscho who toyed with him he hasn't fought a HW who could really land on him with power. Chisora was well out of shape for his fight with Haye.
Haye is by far the better boxer and will win but it is a good 5 years since he fought Chisora who was his last semi competent, if out of shape opponent.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:03 pm
by Numbers
Big D wrote:
Numbers wrote:
Big D wrote:
He's mostly been on the money about Haye to be fair. Haye will KO him but that doesn't make him wrong. It is interesting that Haye will be coming in pretty light I expect him to hit and move a lot, Bellew may be worse than him but I think he carries enough power to hurt Haye if he lands one flush.
I reckon Haye to be knocked down and win at 5/1 is a decent shout. As is both fighters to go down at 5/1.
16/1 for the fight to finish in minute 3 looks interesting.
I like the look of the 16/1, I can't see Bellew knocking Haye down, I would think a KO in 3 or 4 for Haye.
The only way Bellew has a hope is if Haye gets injured.
I agree with the bit on bold.
Reason it wouldn't surprise me if Bellew knocks him down is that Haye has been down before (although it was years and years ago) but barring Klitscho who toyed with him he hasn't fought a HW who could really land on him with power. Chisora was well out of shape for his fight with Haye.
Haye is by far the better boxer and will win but it is a good 5 years since he fought Chisora who was his last semi competent, if out of shape opponent.
Well I have been wrong before, most notably about the Fury v Klitschko fight so you may well be right, I'm just not sure Bellew has the power to floor him, he couldn't KO Cleverley after all, albeit in a lighter weight category.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:05 pm
by Numbers
Discreet Hooker wrote:
Numbers wrote:
Lord Lucan wrote:Did anyone see the Haye v Bellew press conference in Liverpool this week? It was hilarious, there were hundreds of scousers in attendance who took the piss throughout and barracked everyone involved, apart for Bellew and another scouse fighter. Nearly everyone who took to the mic were greeted with the football chat " who the fuck, who the fuck, who the fucking hell are you."
Haye thinks its funny until its his turn, he ends up losing the plot, calling the crowd "fucking retards." brilliant.
I am quite looking forward to Bellew getting tuned I have to say.
We have now reached Jeremy Kyle level in boxing . WTF was this meeting ever held ? Fking heavyweights .
All of Bellew's fights have this type of build up, quite a few of Haye's too.
It's a shame they can't take a leaf out of the book of Manny or GGG when it comes to humility and professionalism.
Re: RE: Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:41 pm
by Big D
Numbers wrote:
Well I have been wrong before, most notably about the Fury v Klitschko fight so you may well be right, I'm just not sure Bellew has the power to floor him, he couldn't KO Cleverley after all, albeit in a lighter weight category.
Don't worry it'll be me that's wrong. I just have a feeling due to a combination of things. This is Hayes 1st real fight back, Bellew has nothing to lose and his power at LHW was decent enough.
Still expect Haye to win though.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:55 pm
by Pie Man
Some of the most fraudulent "animosity" on show here. Both guys know they shouldn't be in a ring together but are selling the PPV as much as they can with this gimmicky BS.
No way Bellew troubles Haye - not long ago he was campaigning at light-heavy and being put down by the legend that is Adonis Stevenson.
Haye by decapitation whenever he decides the fight has gone a respectable distance.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:21 pm
by Discreet Hooker
Pie Man wrote:Some of the most fraudulent "animosity" on show here. Both guys know they shouldn't be in a ring together but are selling the PPV as much as they can with this gimmicky BS.
No way Bellew troubles Haye - not long ago he was campaigning at light-heavy and being put down by the legend that is Adonis Stevenson.
Haye by decapitation whenever he decides the fight has gone a respectable distance.
Wonder if Haye has placed a hefty bet which round he wins ! remember when he ' fought ' Ordinary and had to play tap & run for two rounds before he could take the bookies money by actually hitting Harrison in the third .
Waste of time geeing up them scousers anyway , they won't PPV , they'll be knackered after watching Cash in the Attic & Judge Rinder .
Re: Boxing
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:32 pm
by WaspInWales
The trash talk is getting a bit ridiculous these days.
Wouldn't it be great it they both sprained an ankle on the ring walk and it had to be called off with seconds to go?
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:45 am
by Discreet Hooker
" Watch your language guys , there are kids here ."
" By the way , why would you bring fcuking kids to an event like this ?"
Doh !
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:13 pm
by Mellsblue
.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:54 pm
by WaspInWales
Lots of swinging but not much making contact.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:11 pm
by WaspInWales
It's livened up but not as expected.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:19 pm
by WaspInWales
He can barely stand, let alone walk around the ring and Bellew is struggling to put him away.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:24 pm
by WaspInWales
Epic, but still not as expected.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:28 pm
by WaspInWales
If this goes the distance, it's a victory for Haye regardless of who gets the win.
If Bellew can't finish him off in these final two rounds, he's a donkey.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:33 pm
by WaspInWales
The towel decides it.
Poor fight in terms of technical ability.
Sad way for Haye to bow out.
Re: Boxing
Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:36 pm
by WaspInWales
Surprise, surprise. All the pre-fight animosity is forgotten.