Sounds like talks are ongoing but nothing signed.
https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/boks-draw- ... n-back-sa/
He's a quality player but I think he'll be lucky to make the Boks side.
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Sounds like talks are ongoing but nothing signed.
It was "known" that he was leaving for a pay-day, but I Think we all assumed it was to Japan, and end of season.FKAS wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:47 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67995451
Well I didn't see that one coming.
Yeah I did have to double check that myself.
My initial reaction too.
NFL players are also exceptional all round athletes in the positions he'll be looking at.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:05 pmMy initial reaction too.
Frankly, I think he's an idiot. There's been a bunch of players who've tried it and come back having not made a dent on a starting team, Wade being the latest. It appears to be that there's just too much about Yank football that needs to be absorbed from a young age and which can't be learned in the space of a season or two.
It may be that he's the exception to the rule, but I think he'll be back in rugby in 3-4 years' time, having missed out on 3 years of development and learning, never to become the player we thought he could be.
Crushing blow to rugby in general and Wales in specific though. Very disappointing.
Puja
Exactly. He's got incredible physical abilities - lightning fast and strong and elusive - but there's dozens of Yank college players who have the same physical gifts and have been breathing the game all their life.Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:09 pmNFL players are also exceptional all round athletes in the positions he'll be looking at.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:05 pmMy initial reaction too.
Frankly, I think he's an idiot. There's been a bunch of players who've tried it and come back having not made a dent on a starting team, Wade being the latest. It appears to be that there's just too much about Yank football that needs to be absorbed from a young age and which can't be learned in the space of a season or two.
It may be that he's the exception to the rule, but I think he'll be back in rugby in 3-4 years' time, having missed out on 3 years of development and learning, never to become the player we thought he could be.
Crushing blow to rugby in general and Wales in specific though. Very disappointing.
Puja
TBH I don't think he's even that close in terms of raw physical ability.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:21 pmExactly. He's got incredible physical abilities - lightning fast and strong and elusive - but there's dozens of Yank college players who have the same physical gifts and have been breathing the game all their life.Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:09 pmNFL players are also exceptional all round athletes in the positions he'll be looking at.Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 1:05 pm
My initial reaction too.
Frankly, I think he's an idiot. There's been a bunch of players who've tried it and come back having not made a dent on a starting team, Wade being the latest. It appears to be that there's just too much about Yank football that needs to be absorbed from a young age and which can't be learned in the space of a season or two.
It may be that he's the exception to the rule, but I think he'll be back in rugby in 3-4 years' time, having missed out on 3 years of development and learning, never to become the player we thought he could be.
Crushing blow to rugby in general and Wales in specific though. Very disappointing.
Puja
Puja
This is my take. I really feel for Wales - to have that sort of talent just 'up and leave' is a massive kick to the gut. Good luck to the guy, but it's really unfortunate for Wales and a big shame for Rugby too
He played NRL didn't he? and was drafted as an Offensive Tackle when he was just 21. Not sure its much of a marker tbh. But all the best to LRZ, think its a bit mad, but its brave for sure.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:57 pm Good for him.
He is 22 stuck working in a profession company/club in a sector/league that has seen 3 clubs go burst recently. Why not take a punt on a new career. He's just about 23, can have two years in the international programme and come back at 25 before the RWC if the NFL thing doesn't work out.
I think he will struggle but fair fucks to him for taking a lesser wage in the short term when he could have pissed off to Japan and picked up an easy wage. I would imagine it'll be WR notionally with the aim of a few snaps a game eventually but returning kicks in the main.
It didn't work for Wade who made the practice squad or Hayne who made an active roster. Both were much older though. Jordan Mialata who plays a tough position, was a similar age and no NFL experience when he was drafted picking up a $2.5m, four year deal. His second deal was four years and $40m guarenteed. LRZ will play a totally different position but it is better to try and fail than wish you never tried.
Still chasing hard for the "everyone hates us and we don't care"Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:58 pm I'm guessing it's bullshit but if Saracens do go after Paddy Jackson it would really be something.
Maialata was NRL and is an offensive tackle. He's also a physical freak, huge and hugely athletic. Very different skillet required than wide receiver, though OT is probably more technical and reportedly the most complex position to play mentally.Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 3:43 pmHe played NRL didn't he? and was drafted as an Offensive Tackle when he was just 21. Not sure its much of a marker tbh. But all the best to LRZ, think its a bit mad, but its brave for sure.Big D wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 2:57 pm Good for him.
He is 22 stuck working in a profession company/club in a sector/league that has seen 3 clubs go burst recently. Why not take a punt on a new career. He's just about 23, can have two years in the international programme and come back at 25 before the RWC if the NFL thing doesn't work out.
I think he will struggle but fair fucks to him for taking a lesser wage in the short term when he could have pissed off to Japan and picked up an easy wage. I would imagine it'll be WR notionally with the aim of a few snaps a game eventually but returning kicks in the main.
It didn't work for Wade who made the practice squad or Hayne who made an active roster. Both were much older though. Jordan Mialata who plays a tough position, was a similar age and no NFL experience when he was drafted picking up a $2.5m, four year deal. His second deal was four years and $40m guarenteed. LRZ will play a totally different position but it is better to try and fail than wish you never tried.