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Bored Falcon wrote:Can someone explain why we take Ford off when we are chasing the game?

Banquo wrote:

Bored Falcon wrote:Can someone explain why we take Ford off when we are chasing the game?

weird. I couldn't work out who Marchant had replaced, because I couldn't conceive of it being Ford.

Digby wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:
Not really, Hill has had many more moments looking like he physically belongs at this level, Ewels over quite a number of caps has been passive in the main. Hill also brings many more stupid moments, but there does seem to be more of a possible upside to Hill.

Passive v many stupid moments = bald men fighting over a comb.

Largely irrelevant Vs might belong, neither have been brilliant which isn't a surprise when stepping down through Kruis, Lawes and Launchbury to look at the next best. So despite the worrying lack of wokeness in attacking baldness yes neither has looked impressed, but it's still different in that Hill does seem to have more potential to be relevant

Getting back to Exeter and talking to Francis about just how hard it is to rise to the level of bang average at test level might prove useful to Hill, and the mental break to get away from this environment, it's not healthy even if it's not all rat poison.

Raggs wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Bored Falcon wrote:Can someone explain why we take Ford off when we are chasing the game?

weird. I couldn't work out who Marchant had replaced, because I couldn't conceive of it being Ford.

Same. A player just called up to the squad replacing our best attacking 10, moving a defensive player to 10. Insane if not injury.

Banquo wrote:

Spiffy wrote:https://www.buzz.ie/rugby/england-ellis ... ons-423371

I'm not a Genge fan at all.

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Spiffy wrote:https://www.buzz.ie/rugby/england-ellis ... ons-423371

I'm not a Genge fan at all.

Me too. I know he is supposed to be a bit of a lad in the Marler mode. That looks pretty brutal. Citation plus lengthy ban?

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:

Mellsblue wrote: Passive v many stupid moments = bald men fighting over a comb.

Largely irrelevant Vs might belong, neither have been brilliant which isn't a surprise when stepping down through Kruis, Lawes and Launchbury to look at the next best. So despite the worrying lack of wokeness in attacking baldness yes neither has looked impressed, but it's still different in that Hill does seem to have more potential to be relevant

Getting back to Exeter and talking to Francis about just how hard it is to rise to the level of bang average at test level might prove useful to Hill, and the mental break to get away from this environment, it's not healthy even if it's not all rat poison.

I don’t think he belongs, which was my first point.

Digby wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:
Largely irrelevant Vs might belong, neither have been brilliant which isn't a surprise when stepping down through Kruis, Lawes and Launchbury to look at the next best. So despite the worrying lack of wokeness in attacking baldness yes neither has looked impressed, but it's still different in that Hill does seem to have more potential to be relevant

Getting back to Exeter and talking to Francis about just how hard it is to rise to the level of bang average at test level might prove useful to Hill, and the mental break to get away from this environment, it's not healthy even if it's not all rat poison.

I don’t think he belongs, which was my first point.

Possibly so, not many other options. I might wonder that Ted Hill has never seemed to awake much interest, but he's no 40 cap Scott Fardy we're not picking

Spiffy wrote:https://www.buzz.ie/rugby/england-ellis ... ons-423371

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Spiffy wrote:https://www.buzz.ie/rugby/england-ellis ... ons-423371

I'm not a Genge fan at all.

Me too. I know he is supposed to be a bit of a lad in the Marler mode. That looks pretty brutal. Citation plus lengthy ban?

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Mellsblue wrote: I don’t think he belongs, which was my first point.

Possibly so, not many other options. I might wonder that Ted Hill has never seemed to awake much interest, but he's no 40 cap Scott Fardy we're not picking

Ted has been in most squads iirc, though he must have looked at Martin on the bench and thought WTF.

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:

fivepointer wrote:Ewels has looked a better player last 2 games. Quicker on his feet and less inclined to commit silly indiscretions.

Hill has looked up to it at times. And Ewels has to put his hand up as part of a failing scrum which set the tone for a really poor display. Essentially Ewels looked better against France, but not so much today, nobody looked good today.

Bald men fighting over a comb.

Banquo wrote:

Spiffy wrote:

Banquo wrote: Not sure they would be my primary targets. Nor the second lot, my secondary ones, bar Mako who was utterly conned by his oppo.

His subbing was just odd, his bench was insane, and the penalty count ridiculous.

Dire from the players. Ireland were excellent in fairness, and how Beirne was not MOTM is a huge mystery.

Oh, and penalties, again.

Beirne has been a revelation this season. Not massive, but a great engine, can do it all and has a rugby brain. I'd have him in the Lions squad.

Me too

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

fivepointer wrote:Ewels has looked a better player last 2 games. Quicker on his feet and less inclined to commit silly indiscretions.

Hill has looked up to it at times. And Ewels has to put his hand up as part of a failing scrum which set the tone for a really poor display. Essentially Ewels looked better against France, but not so much today, nobody looked good today.

The failing scrum was really a front row fail, I thought. And mostly Mako, at that.

Danno wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:
Hill has looked up to it at times. And Ewels has to put his hand up as part of a failing scrum which set the tone for a really poor display. Essentially Ewels looked better against France, but not so much today, nobody looked good today.

Bald men fighting over a comb.

In a war of soup, armed with a fork

Digby wrote:Does seem a bit what has Mako ever done for us, apart from the hands, well yes the hands, and the work rate, well yes the work rate, and the carrying, and the tackling, and the jackal threat, and the lifting, and the..., but apart from that what has Mako ever done for us?

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:
Hill has looked up to it at times. And Ewels has to put his hand up as part of a failing scrum which set the tone for a really poor display. Essentially Ewels looked better against France, but not so much today, nobody looked good today.

The failing scrum was really a front row fail, I thought. And mostly Mako, at that.

There was a lot of movement in the setting of the scrum, and I can't read what was happening. Was Furlong being cute and doing a number on Mako, possibly, but it's not going to hurt the props if there's more power coming through and they can simplify, or at least so I'm assuming

Not a good day for Mako in the scrum, nor LCD one supposes.

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:
Hill has looked up to it at times. And Ewels has to put his hand up as part of a failing scrum which set the tone for a really poor display. Essentially Ewels looked better against France, but not so much today, nobody looked good today.

The failing scrum was really a front row fail, I thought. And mostly Mako, at that.

There was a lot of movement in the setting of the scrum, and I can't read what was happening. Was Furlong being cute and doing a number on Mako, possibly, but it's not going to hurt the props if there's more power coming through and they can simplify, or at least so I'm assuming

Not a good day for Mako in the scrum, nor LCD one supposes.

FKAS wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:
Possibly so, not many other options. I might wonder that Ted Hill has never seemed to awake much interest, but he's no 40 cap Scott Fardy we're not picking

Ted has been in most squads iirc, though he must have looked at Martin on the bench and thought WTF.

Big Ted has been a bit meh recently. I thought he may well have been capped when he was bang in form last season.

Martin looked tidy when he came on. One nice carry for good metres close in, made his tackles got about and crucially no stupid penalties. Be first of many caps.

If Ted Hill or George are at 6 does that mean we can have Simmonds at 8?

Digby wrote:Does seem a bit what has Mako ever done for us, apart from the hands, well yes the hands, and the work rate, well yes the work rate, and the carrying, and the tackling, and the jackal threat, and the lifting, and the..., but apart from that what has Mako ever done for us?

Banquo wrote:

Digby wrote:

Banquo wrote: The failing scrum was really a front row fail, I thought. And mostly Mako, at that.

There was a lot of movement in the setting of the scrum, and I can't read what was happening. Was Furlong being cute and doing a number on Mako, possibly, but it's not going to hurt the props if there's more power coming through and they can simplify, or at least so I'm assuming

Not a good day for Mako in the scrum, nor LCD one supposes.

I think Furlong did him like a kipper, and it cost us a lot in the first half. That's Itoje's side too.

There was a lot of canny play up front, no doubt POC inspired.