Re: England vs Wales - Sat 5.30pm - A New Hope
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:41 am
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There speaks another Leicester man. Fair enough. You agree with SB. I don't. Time will tell.FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:34 am The problem is that Hill has failed to bring a lot of those strengths you mention to international rugby. He went through a spell of being devastating 5m out for Chiefs but has never really threatened ball in hand for England. He's not a dominant tackler, his skill levels aren't high when you consider the other international locks. Itoje and Ribbans are a considerable distance ahead there Chessum not far behind them.
He is a good lineout jumper but Hill just looks a big lump at international level. The four options selected are more mobile and get through as much if not more work. Hill's pretty poor showing off the bench in the second half in Cardiff the other weekend put the nail in the coffin of his selection.
As Hill’s changed his haircut will you need to change your opinion? I’ll let you mullet over.
As the supreme wind-up merchant, you have to accept some hassle. I was tempted to remark that as the supreme 'Joe Bugner of rugby' in terms of not punching his weight as a player, maybe SB does not think dog/grunt counts in front five forwards. Maybe a bent nose is all that matters.
I actually really wanted Hill in the team more over the last four years, particularly when Ewels seemed to be getting capped. Unfortunately Hill hasn't translated Prem form to the international stage. He's still a very good Prem lock and was a great acquisition for Sale last season.Oakboy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:01 amThere speaks another Leicester man. Fair enough. You agree with SB. I don't. Time will tell.FKAS wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:34 am The problem is that Hill has failed to bring a lot of those strengths you mention to international rugby. He went through a spell of being devastating 5m out for Chiefs but has never really threatened ball in hand for England. He's not a dominant tackler, his skill levels aren't high when you consider the other international locks. Itoje and Ribbans are a considerable distance ahead there Chessum not far behind them.
He is a good lineout jumper but Hill just looks a big lump at international level. The four options selected are more mobile and get through as much if not more work. Hill's pretty poor showing off the bench in the second half in Cardiff the other weekend put the nail in the coffin of his selection.
Fair enough! I actually like Hill, but do not think he has kicked on to become the enforcer type lock we need. Hopefully Sale will instil that into him in due course.Oakboy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:11 amAs the supreme wind-up merchant, you have to accept some hassle. I was tempted to remark that as the supreme 'Joe Bugner of rugby' in terms of not punching his weight as a player, maybe SB does not think dog/grunt counts in front five forwards. Maybe a bent nose is all that matters.