Clinton

[Coco]

He's smart. Remember? He reminded us during the debate.

Yeah, "bigly".

That must be one of those" best words" he has.

It is one of many he uses often.

[Eugene Wrayburn]

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/12220124?

[cashead]

It's genuinely astounding that there are some people actually trying to claim the debate was not a level playing field or whatever. I'm sorry, but Trumpy decided it was a good idea to

A) Not fucking prepare for a potentially defining point in his trainwreck of a campaign

and

B) Try to use the fact that Clinton did as a stick to beat her with, basically dancing around and going "Egghead likes her bookywook! Egghead likes her bookywook!"

He got rightfully called out for it on the night, and he deserves to continue to be ridiculed for it.

"Oooh, the questions were mean to him! Oooh, they were sexist!" Seriously, fuck off, like.

[Digby]

B) Try to use the fact that Clinton did as a stick to beat her with, basically dancing around and going "Egghead likes her bookywook! Egghead likes her bookywook!"

'twas only the last election that Mitt Romney was called out for speaking French. Now I'd contend there are all sorts of reasons to doubt and mock Romney, but that having an education plays for knocking down a candidate is worrying indeed.

It seems for reasons passing understanding many average hard working Americans (and one must always it seems label all voters as hard working despite all sorts of evidence to the contrary) don't want to associated with people getting one of them there educations. We saw some of this in Brexit too with people not wanting to hear from experts, we see it in the global warming debate, on vaccinations...

[cashead]

It was one of the tactics used by W Bush during his presidency. Dumb = honest, so therefore, smart = untrustworthy.

On the plus side, it gave Clinton a mic drop moment, when she was like "no fucking shit I prepared, you dumb fucker."

[morepork]

Trump's largest fan base is uneducated crackers, poll after poll, after poll. There is a direct correlation with the level of education.

[Digby]

Trump's largest fan base is uneducated crackers, poll after poll, after poll. There is a direct correlation with the level of education.

There was with Brexit too, and it turns out we do indeed have too many thick people.

[morepork]

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[Sandydragon]

Trump's largest fan base is uneducated crackers, poll after poll, after poll. There is a direct correlation with the level of education.

There was with Brexit too, and it turns out we do indeed have too many thick people.

Is anyone surprised by this? Not only did they want to leave, but we need to leave right fecking now without any kind of plan.

[zer0]

[Eugene Wrayburn]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/po ... ipad-share

WTF? America's tax codea are bonkers.

[Digby]

The defence from the Trump campaign sounds like someone has spent too much time reading the Chuck Norris Facts.

I've got family who were among the contractors that weren't paid by Trump, suffice to say even as nailed on Republicans they'll be voting for Clinton, which so far as I understand will be the first democrat anyone has voted for in their family since Truman. Trump may have gotten out of paying them, but they still lost their house and their business as they couldn't get out of their debts back then. Of course we've had similar in this country where big business interests have been allowed to wind up with those at the top retaining their vast wealth whilst lower ranked employees and contractors have been screwed over, though that's it's odious doesn't mean it's an easy fix.

[morepork]

No surprises there. Trickle down in action.

Trump is, has always been, and always will be, an unmitigated fuckwit.

[morepork]

and he scores again. You want an insight into what it's like being a woman around this cunt, look here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2821855

No surprises, "everyone does it" they will say, but fuck me, you can set your clocks back 50 years if this fucking idiot gets anywhere near policy making of any kind. How in the name of Greyskull's septic kok did anyone think this was an appropriate representation of a political philosophy?? When someone like this enjoys so much unfettered access to wealth and power you just know the whole show is FUBAR. The system is run by complete fucktards.

Anyone that paints this as PC gone mad should be marched immediately off to the salt mines.

[cashead]

Reminder that he's also on record saying women who seek abortion services should be "punished."

[Mellsblue]

She should keep it simple, like the Donald. His one-issue campaign is basically wealth English-speaking white males. Fuck everything else. Genius.

How do thick people become so rich?

Rich parents, low inheritance taxes

I recently read that if he'd stuck all of his inheritance in a FTSE tracker fund he'd be a lot richer than he currently is. So, in essence, the self proclaimed business genius has spent decades losing money.

[morepork]

She should keep it simple, like the Donald. His one-issue campaign is basically wealth English-speaking white males. Fuck everything else. Genius.

How do thick people become so rich?

Rich parents, low inheritance taxes

I recently read that if he'd stuck all of his inheritance in a FTSE tracker fund he'd be a lot richer than he currently is. So, in essence, the self proclaimed business genius has spent decades losing money.

...other people's money.

[cashead]

Exploiting bonkers tax laws by claiming a loss of $900million to avoid paying taxes for a couple of decades.

[morepork]

Exploiting bonkers tax laws by claiming a loss of $900million to avoid paying taxes for a couple of decades.

A true man of the people.

[Donny osmond]

I'm starting to really like him

[Sandydragon]

and he scores again. You want an insight into what it's like being a woman around this cunt, look here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2821855

No surprises, "everyone does it" they will say, but fuck me, you can set your clocks back 50 years if this fucking idiot gets anywhere near policy making of any kind. How in the name of Greyskull's septic kok did anyone think this was an appropriate representation of a political philosophy?? When someone like this enjoys so much unfettered access to wealth and power you just know the whole show is FUBAR. The system is run by complete fucktards.

Anyone that paints this as PC gone mad should be marched immediately off to the salt mines.

He's lucky to be born to high wealth parents. If he was born to poorer family he would be a gob shyte trucker moaning about the world in dives in the mid west.

How anyone can regard this fucktard as presidential material is beyond me. I'm no fan of Clinton, but frankly this is no contest.

[Digby]

Exploiting bonkers tax laws by claiming a loss of $900million to avoid paying taxes for a couple of decades.

A true man of the people.

Especially when his giant losses will have represented in part so many unpaid workers/contractors/suppliers. People who have lost their businesses, their homes, had their lives under stress and seen relationships crumble.

Odious wouldn't come close

[Sandydragon]

Exploiting bonkers tax laws by claiming a loss of $900million to avoid paying taxes for a couple of decades.

A true man of the people.

Especially when his giant losses will have represented in part so many unpaid workers/contractors/suppliers. People who have lost their businesses, their homes, had their lives under stress and seen relationships crumble.

Odious wouldn't come close

This is where it gets confusing. Farage had the man of the people thing sewn up despite being comfortable himself. How the hell can Trump even claim to represent the poor in US society when he is for such a privileged background and his only interactions with those at the bottom of the pile have been to somehow screw them over? Yet to look at his followers, they seem to regard him as the next messiah.

The world is truly crazy.

[morepork]

A true man of the people.

Especially when his giant losses will have represented in part so many unpaid workers/contractors/suppliers. People who have lost their businesses, their homes, had their lives under stress and seen relationships crumble.

Odious wouldn't come close

This is where it gets confusing. Farage had the man of the people thing sewn up despite being comfortable himself. How the hell can Trump even claim to represent the poor in US society when he is for such a privileged background and his only interactions with those at the bottom of the pile have been to somehow screw them over? Yet to look at his followers, they seem to regard him as the next messiah.

The world is truly crazy.

- Guns
- Jebus
- a dysfunctional media that paints "businessmen" as unquestionably principled, practical guardians of some mystical superpower that takes precedence over logic, even science (see for example comments about climate change as a conspiracy by liberal academics/the Chinese government, calling Obama a socialist (?!))
- all of the above and more that takes advantage of the uneducated and ill informed by stoking the fires of hate and prejudice to detract from failings of a corrupt system (no income tax for 18 years for a rich prick FFS)

When clarity on the issue of inequality, which like it or not is the issue of our times, is provided to these poor pawns, things will change.

[Sandydragon]

I think a hatred of the establishment is playing large in this as well. We say it here with Brexit, trump is benefitting from those who feel left behind.

FWIW, I'm with you on the issue of inequality, although I suspect we differ on what that means and how to treat it, but that is probably a separate thread.