v AB'S - Second Test

[16th man]

The NZ herald have given Itoje a 4/10.

[bitts]

That was pretty much the perfect scenario for the Lions. And it still almost went wrong.

Read showed a huge amount of dignity in the face of awful questioning.

Not sure all on this board are doing likewise.

SBW call spot on. Didn't see the SOB one (kid acting up). Mako ones looked about right to me. Ref did seem a tad inept overall thought.

Next week could get ugly.

[skidger]

Does anyone know what happened during the All Blacks 'line of honour'? Just seen the press conferences and Hansen is asked about the incident and whether he is disappointed with it.

[prisonerofmychild]

These guys do some great reviews: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvv-9n ... FKg/videos
One irish, one kiwi.
Not always in line with this board, but some very nice insight.
Worth a watch

[skidger]

Graham bloody Simmons. Makes Sonia on the beeb look professional.

[Banquo]

Graham bloody Simmons. Makes Sonia on the beeb look professional.

absolute c*nt. I hate interviews w players and coaches straight after a game anyway, but he makes it torture

[Banquo]

who was the motm?

[16th man]

Graham bloody Simmons. Makes Sonia on the beeb look professional.

absolute c*nt. I hate interviews w players and coaches straight after a game anyway, but he makes it torture

So much this. Has any single one of these "interviews" ever yielded a single worthwhile insight?

[skidger]

Graham bloody Simmons. Makes Sonia on the beeb look professional.

absolute c*nt. I hate interviews w players and coaches straight after a game anyway, but he makes it torture

So much this. Has any single one of these "interviews" ever yielded a single worthwhile insight?

Just the two. They are shite. And that Graham Simmons has a huge ego.

[oldbackrow]

No, Vunipola got a yellow for striking Barrett's head - which, if going by the precedent set by Garces himself earlier in the game, should've been a red.

No Vunipola got yellow for clearing out the man away from the ball! I know its unusual for a NZ forward to do that sort of clearout (and not come in like an exocet missile) but it does happen on occasions! Also would need to see it again but it looked to me as if it caught his shoulder first. Barrett certainly milked both that and the previous contact (given that Vunipola went in front of him and not into him)

Yes Garces wasn't the best ref but not as bad as I think you are trying to make out. Many of the Lions penalties were around half way, which is then very difficult for a ref to yellow card for repeated infringements. That tends to kept for 'red zone' penalties.

Should be an interesting and tense game next week.

[Digby]

who was the motm?

Maro 4/10 Itoje?

[Freddo]

Does anyone know what happened during the All Blacks 'line of honour'? Just seen the press conferences and Hansen is asked about the incident and whether he is disappointed with it.

From the replay I saw it seemed that Sinckler was still celebrating (doing his best Ric Flair impression) and Farrell told him to shut up.

[skidger]

Does anyone know what happened during the All Blacks 'line of honour'? Just seen the press conferences and Hansen is asked about the incident and whether he is disappointed with it.

From the replay I saw it seemed that Sinckler was still celebrating (doing his best Ric Flair impression) and Farrell told him to shut up.

Oh dear. A very good prospect but has a lot of growing up to do.

[Puja]

Does anyone know what happened during the All Blacks 'line of honour'? Just seen the press conferences and Hansen is asked about the incident and whether he is disappointed with it.

From the replay I saw it seemed that Sinckler was still celebrating (doing his best Ric Flair impression) and Farrell told him to shut up.

Oh dear. A very good prospect but has a lot of growing up to do.

Indeed. When the match-winning penalty was conceded (from a frankly appalling decision, considering Sinckler caused it by jumping into a tackle, which is against the laws), Sinckler actually sprang up from the floor looking for a fight after having been "fouled". Showed good pre-emptive management from the Lions leaders that SOB and Farrell were watching for it and were on his shoulder instantly to lead him away and tell him not to be a twat and get the penalty reversed.

Puja

[Digby]

Just seen the Mako yellow, only from one camera angle, barely even a penalty in the modern game and certainly not commensurate with the actions of Williams

[oldbackrow]

From the replay I saw it seemed that Sinckler was still celebrating (doing his best Ric Flair impression) and Farrell told him to shut up.

Oh dear. A very good prospect but has a lot of growing up to do.

Indeed. When the match-winning penalty was conceded (from a frankly appalling decision, considering Sinckler caused it by jumping into a tackle, which is against the laws), Sinckler actually sprang up from the floor looking for a fight after having been "fouled". Showed good pre-emptive management from the Lions leaders that SOB and Farrell were watching for it and were on his shoulder instantly to lead him away and tell him not to be a twat and get the penalty reversed.

Puja

Don't often disagree with you, but in this case afraid I must! Sinkler 'jumped' for the high pass off Murray and was hit before he hit the ground, how many times does it happen but Law 10.4 (e) makes it clear and therefore a penalty. There is no direct law about "jumping into a tackle" although the ref could consider it dangerous play (like they enforce that when someone dives over a ruck to score!)

[16th man]

From the replay I saw it seemed that Sinckler was still celebrating (doing his best Ric Flair impression) and Farrell told him to shut up.

Oh dear. A very good prospect but has a lot of growing up to do.

Indeed. When the match-winning penalty was conceded (from a frankly appalling decision, considering Sinckler caused it by jumping into a tackle, which is against the laws), Sinckler actually sprang up from the floor looking for a fight after having been "fouled". Showed good pre-emptive management from the Lions leaders that SOB and Farrell were watching for it and were on his shoulder instantly to lead him away and tell him not to be a twat and get the penalty reversed.

Puja

I reckon we got that penalty as he was looking for the next possible opportunity. having let the AB front row off with collapsing the last scrum.

[Digby]

I don't much like the penalty Sinkler won by jumping into the tackle, even if for a pass, but I don't know that's the match winning play. There are thousands of incidents in a game, if you're that bothered a late incident doesn't give you a chance to respond do better in the earlier incidents.

[morepork]

I don't much like the penalty Sinkler won by jumping into the tackle, even if for a pass, but I don't know that's the match winning play. There are thousands of incidents in a game, if you're that bothered a late incident doesn't give you a chance to respond do better in the earlier incidents.

The broader point is that they scraped through against 14 men by looking for penalties. Again, see you next week sir. Next week I say.

[Digby]

I don't much like the penalty Sinkler won by jumping into the tackle, even if for a pass, but I don't know that's the match winning play. There are thousands of incidents in a game, if you're that bothered a late incident doesn't give you a chance to respond do better in the earlier incidents.

The broader point is that they scraped through against 14 men by looking for penalties. Again, see you next week sir. Next week I say.

I don't disagree. Though I suspect many wouldn't agree that ideally next week finishes in a draw so neither side wins.

[Puja]

I don't much like the penalty Sinkler won by jumping into the tackle, even if for a pass, but I don't know that's the match winning play. There are thousands of incidents in a game, if you're that bothered a late incident doesn't give you a chance to respond do better in the earlier incidents.

The broader point is that they scraped through against 14 men by looking for penalties. Again, see you next week sir. Next week I say.

Heh - we're not the side that's just shown themselves to be boring, constantly kicking for goal, and incapable of try scoring. Reduce penalties down to 2 points, in my opinion, to combat this drear New Zealand style!

Puja

[oldbackrow]

Heh - we're not the side that's just shown themselves to be boring, constantly kicking for goal, and incapable of try scoring. Reduce penalties down to 2 points, in my opinion, to combat this drear New Zealand style!

Puja

[morepork]

ooooh you will eat those words.

Maybe.

[Lord Lucan]

The Lions did their best to throw this game away, we were doing better before Williams got sent off, but they did what was needed and won, should be some game next week.
Nice to see an All Black get the same treatment as everyone else for a change, getting justice for their skulduggery.

[Sandydragon]

I don't much like the penalty Sinkler won by jumping into the tackle, even if for a pass, but I don't know that's the match winning play. There are thousands of incidents in a game, if you're that bothered a late incident doesn't give you a chance to respond do better in the earlier incidents.

The broader point is that they scraped through against 14 men by looking for penalties. Again, see you next week sir. Next week I say.

Two tries to nil, mate, 2-0.

Makes next week far more interesting.