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Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:44 pm
by Galfon
Pen Poll.
23 - 12 after 67 min.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:44 pm
by Oakboy
Ford off, thank goodness.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:45 pm
by Mellsblue
I R Geech wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
I R Geech wrote:Ford is shipping the ball anywhere anyhow, just as long as he doesn’t take contact. Get Cips on.
Don’t agree with your analysis of Ford but if now isn’t the time for Cips then it never will be.
You’re probably right, just feel he’s being a bit of a fanny.
Ideally a flyhalf shouldn’t take contact unless it’s to create a gap/hole. You can’t dictate play from the bottom of a ruck.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:47 pm
by 16th man
Hughes you tit. Mind you, it was okay for Mostert to do it.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:47 pm
by Scrumhead
Hughes can fuck right off ... offered nothing positive and now has cost us any chance of a comeback

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:48 pm
by WaspInWales
Superb discipline again

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:48 pm
by badback
That is so stupid

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:49 pm
by Insouciant
Discipline... also why are we so crap?

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:49 pm
by I R Geech
Mellsblue wrote:
I R Geech wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Don’t agree with your analysis of Ford but if now isn’t the time for Cips then it never will be.
You’re probably right, just feel he’s being a bit of a fanny.
Ideally a flyhalf shouldn’t take contact unless it’s to create a gap/hole. You can’t dictate play from the bottom of a ruck.
I’m aware of that and didn’t say he should, but he was shipping shit like a fanny - it’s not the same thing. Anyway, least of England’s problems today.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:50 pm
by Oakboy
What a coaching shambles!

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:50 pm
by Galfon
Faz has been anonymous 2nd. half.
His skipability is still in question.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:50 pm
by Mellsblue
What a dick. Our lack of composure and discipline in microcosm. Hopeless.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:51 pm
by Insouciant
Hang on .... he said play on ???

I actually feel sorry for Faz

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:52 pm
by badback
Do my eyes deceive me or is Farrell at 10?

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:52 pm
by WaspInWales
I give up. Told you we wouldn't trouble the scoreboard again.

Fucking useless.

The knives are well and truly being sharpened and quite rightly so. There has been no step up, or change or ownership of problems.

What a load of bollocks.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:54 pm
by Mellsblue
I R Geech wrote:
Mellsblue wrote:
I R Geech wrote: You’re probably right, just feel he’s being a bit of a fanny.
Ideally a flyhalf shouldn’t take contact unless it’s to create a gap/hole. You can’t dictate play from the bottom of a ruck.
I’m aware of that and didn’t say he should, but he was shipping shit like a fanny - it’s not the same thing. Anyway, least of England’s problems today.
So explain to me why you believe he’s ‘shipping ball anywhere and anyhow just to avoid contact’.
Yep, the least of our problems.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:54 pm
by Mellsblue
badback wrote:Do my eyes deceive me or is Farrell at 10?
For first phase. Cips after that when there is more space.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:55 pm
by badback
Cipriani is just a different class

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:55 pm
by Insouciant
Cipriani ... nice touch

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:56 pm
by badback
And then he messes up

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:58 pm
by Oakboy
So, now it is 5 defeats in 6, perhaps we can all agree that the 6N WAS a disaster.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:58 pm
by I R Geech
Mellsblue wrote:
I R Geech wrote:
Mellsblue wrote: Ideally a flyhalf shouldn’t take contact unless it’s to create a gap/hole. You can’t dictate play from the bottom of a ruck.
I’m aware of that and didn’t say he should, but he was shipping shit like a fanny - it’s not the same thing. Anyway, least of England’s problems today.
So explain to me why you believe he’s ‘shipping ball anywhere and anyhow just to avoid contact’.
Yep, the least of our problems.
Because he is/was. Nothing wrong with taking crap ball in and resetting rather than making things worse. Whatevs, Cips in a different class already.

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:59 pm
by Insouciant
We can't deal with the in your face defence... poor

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:59 pm
by Mellsblue
Oakboy wrote: the 6N WAS a disaster.
Who said it wasn’t?

Re: Second Test

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:00 pm
by Galfon
FT 23 - 12
a regression from last week.
Now playing like ' plucky underdogs '...