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Which Tyler wrote:Munitions depot in Belgorod, Russia - just over the border from Kharkiv


According to a friend wh can speak Russian - state media is claiming it was a Ukrainian shell, 4 Russian soldiers injured

Vyacheslav Gladkov wrote:He said that at around 05:00 Moscow time (02:00 GMT) two Ukrainian Mi-24 helicopters entered Russian airspace at extremely low altitude and "launched a missile attack on a civilian oil storage facility" on the outskirts of Belgorod. Some storage tanks were damaged and caught fire, he said.

"The oil storage facility has nothing to do with the Russian armed forces," he said.

President Vladimir Putin's spokesman said the incident "cannot be perceived as creating comfortable conditions for continuing the talks" with Kyiv.

paddy no 11 wrote:I hope Ukraine survives this and putin and lavrov die screaming

kk67 wrote:Mea culpa.
Cannot deny I got this one totally wrong.

Which Tyler wrote:Well fuck.

Puja wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:Well fuck.

Jesus fuck. That kind of propaganda doesn't suggest that Russia is even slightly considering looking at a negotiated peace. Even if we assume that Putin himself doesn't believe that (which is not a given), that is not rhetoric which allows any room for a graceful climbdown/declaring that you've won and have achieved what you wanted all along. That's doubling down on the only option being the complete annexation of the country.

It's also the kind of propaganda that could justify nuking the country in a "better dead than Nazi" fit of pique.

Puja

Son of Mathonwy wrote:

Puja wrote:

Which Tyler wrote:Well fuck.

Jesus fuck. That kind of propaganda doesn't suggest that Russia is even slightly considering looking at a negotiated peace. Even if we assume that Putin himself doesn't believe that (which is not a given), that is not rhetoric which allows any room for a graceful climbdown/declaring that you've won and have achieved what you wanted all along. That's doubling down on the only option being the complete annexation of the country.

It's also the kind of propaganda that could justify nuking the country in a "better dead than Nazi" fit of pique.

Puja

Loving the use of the concept of denazification as an excuse for NAZI policies.

Not going to be much forgiveness when the fighting's done.

Which Tyler wrote:Well fuck.

Zhivago wrote:https://ccl.org.ua/en/news/ria-novosti- ... ukraine-2/

Really genocidal propaganda

An op-ed for state news agency RIA Novosti titled "What Russia should do with Ukraine" by pundit Timofei Sergeitsev has created quite a stir today

The rhetoric is truly horrific, even by the standards of what I'm used to seeing from pro-Kremlin media

Below are a few quotes:

"Denazification is a set of measures aimed at the nazified mass of the population, which technically cannot be subjected to direct punishment as war criminals"

"However, besides the elite, a significant part of the masses of the people, who are passive nazis, are accomplices to Nazism. They have supported the Nazi authorities and indulged them..."

"...The just punishment for this part of the population is possible only as the bearing of the inevitable hardships of a just war against the Nazi system"

"The name Ukraine can seemingly not be retained as the title of any fully denazified state formation on the territory liberated from the Nazi regime"

"Denazification is inevitably also deukrainisation – a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic element of self-identification of the population of the territories of the historical Malorossiya and Novorossiya begun by the Soviet authorities"

"Unlike, let’s say, Georgia or the Baltics, Ukraine, as history has shown, is unviable as a national state, and attempts to 'build' one logically lead to Nazism"

"The Banderite elite must be liquidated, its reeducation is impossible. The social 'swamp' which actively and passively supports it must undergo the hardships of war and digest the experience as a historical lesson and atonement" END

Banquo wrote:Yay...Orban re-elected