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Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:12 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:46 am
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:27 am Steward’s going to be a busy man. He needs to work on his pace, agility, passing, catching, when and how to come in to the line and his mental toughness.
Goodness knows how he’ll do this when his coaches play him every weekend and have him train to capacity on team specific sessions. Poor mite.
On the plus side, Snoop BorthyBorth, in his wisdom, has made us so crap that Steward will have plenty of time from 16th Oct to work on the above. IBWT.
It's normally me being the arch-pessimist! We have won two vital matches with questionable tactics but win them we did no matter how ugly most of it was to watch. Surely, the team can only improve even within SB's planned style of play? Reduce mistakes, exploit openings, keep 15 on the pitch and maybe win the QF?

It could happen.
The first match tactics were perfect once our 7 got curried away to be fair.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:12 pm
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:46 am
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:27 am Steward’s going to be a busy man. He needs to work on his pace, agility, passing, catching, when and how to come in to the line and his mental toughness.
Goodness knows how he’ll do this when his coaches play him every weekend and have him train to capacity on team specific sessions. Poor mite.
On the plus side, Snoop BorthyBorth, in his wisdom, has made us so crap that Steward will have plenty of time from 16th Oct to work on the above. IBWT.
It's normally me being the arch-pessimist! We have won two vital matches with questionable tactics but win them we did no matter how ugly most of it was to watch. Surely, the team can only improve even within SB's planned style of play? Reduce mistakes, exploit openings, keep 15 on the pitch and maybe win the QF?

It could happen.
The first match tactics were perfect once our 7 got curried away to be fair.
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:12 pm
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:46 am

It's normally me being the arch-pessimist! We have won two vital matches with questionable tactics but win them we did no matter how ugly most of it was to watch. Surely, the team can only improve even within SB's planned style of play? Reduce mistakes, exploit openings, keep 15 on the pitch and maybe win the QF?

It could happen.
The first match tactics were perfect once our 7 got curried away to be fair.
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.
Certainly pleased the sports raithas.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:28 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:12 pm
The first match tactics were perfect once our 7 got curried away to be fair.
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.
Certainly pleased the sports raithas.
Nice for them to have an easy takeaway from the match.

Puja

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:32 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:28 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.
Certainly pleased the sports raithas.
Nice for them to have an easy takeaway from the match.

Puja
certainly able to biryani bad news

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:33 pm
by Oakboy
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:12 pm
The first match tactics were perfect once our 7 got curried away to be fair.
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.
Certainly pleased the sports raithas.
Naan other than Owen to come back to sort everything shortly, of course.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:35 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:33 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.
Certainly pleased the sports raithas.
Naan other than Owen to come back to sort everything shortly, of course.
Sheesh.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:48 pm
by Puja
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:33 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:14 pm
It was certainly a Balti from the blue.
Certainly pleased the sports raithas.
Naan other than Owen to come back to sort everything shortly, of course.
I'm sure he'll provide the creativity to sort out our rather dhal style of play.

Puja

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:07 pm
by Mellsblue
Puja wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:48 pm
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:33 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:25 pm

Certainly pleased the sports raithas.
Naan other than Owen to come back to sort everything shortly, of course.
I'm sure he'll provide the creativity to sort out our rather dhal style of play.

Puja
Agreed. He’s more likely to make us all kormatosed.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:21 pm
by Banquo
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:07 pm
Puja wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:48 pm
Oakboy wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:33 pm

Naan other than Owen to come back to sort everything shortly, of course.
I'm sure he'll provide the creativity to sort out our rather dhal style of play.

Puja
Agreed. He’s more likely to make us all kormatosed.
You're phal of it today.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:17 pm
by Mellsblue
https://x.com/willgkelleher/status/1704 ... MV3j-SK8yQ

Probable England XV to face Chile M Smith; M Malins, E Daly, O Lawrence, H Arundell; O Farrell, D Care; B Rodd, T Dan, K Sinckler, D Ribbans, G Martin, L Ludlam, J Willis, B Vunipola.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:19 pm
by Insouciant
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:21 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 1:07 pm
Puja wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:48 pm

I'm sure he'll provide the creativity to sort out our rather dhal style of play.

Puja
Agreed. He’s more likely to make us all kormatosed.
You're phal of it today.
With regard to Saag Bhaji's England, we should review the results and overall performances once the RWC is over, dansak him if he hasn't done enough.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:21 pm
by Insouciant
Given the rumours are true -

That's fair enough to rest Ford. The Smith 15 experiment is interesting but who's gambling on that against a top side (no disrespect to Chile of course)? Good to see Arundel and Willis given a chance. Not sure why Willis isn't above Billy V in the pecking order but hey ho.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:47 pm
by Mikey Brown
Well that’s certainly an odd looking team in ways. I wonder how many of them have a realistic chance of earning a spot in the XV/23 based on this game?

Obviously Faz marshalling this bunch of misfits to a win would see his return, but I’m not quite sure about anybody else.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:53 pm
by p/d
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:17 pm https://x.com/willgkelleher/status/1704 ... MV3j-SK8yQ

Probable England XV to face Chile M Smith; M Malins, E Daly, O Lawrence, H Arundell; O Farrell, D Care; B Rodd, T Dan, K Sinckler, D Ribbans, G Martin, L Ludlam, J Willis, B Vunipola.
Am I reading that as Daly 13? If so, about time!!! El & Ol could be excellent.................. even if OF is servicing them. Throw in young Arundel and the backs will sparkle!!

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:56 pm
by Banquo
p/d wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:53 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:17 pm https://x.com/willgkelleher/status/1704 ... MV3j-SK8yQ

Probable England XV to face Chile M Smith; M Malins, E Daly, O Lawrence, H Arundell; O Farrell, D Care; B Rodd, T Dan, K Sinckler, D Ribbans, G Martin, L Ludlam, J Willis, B Vunipola.
Am I reading that as Daly 13? If so, about time!!! El & Ol could be excellent.................. even if OF is servicing them. Throw in young Arundel and the backs will sparkle!!
All well and good v Chile. El has had a few goes at 13 intly to be fair.....none have ended well.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:22 pm
by p/d
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:56 pm
p/d wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:53 pm
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:17 pm https://x.com/willgkelleher/status/1704 ... MV3j-SK8yQ

Probable England XV to face Chile M Smith; M Malins, E Daly, O Lawrence, H Arundell; O Farrell, D Care; B Rodd, T Dan, K Sinckler, D Ribbans, G Martin, L Ludlam, J Willis, B Vunipola.
Am I reading that as Daly 13? If so, about time!!! El & Ol could be excellent.................. even if OF is servicing them. Throw in young Arundel and the backs will sparkle!!
All well and good v Chile. El has had a few goes at 13 intly to be fair.....none have ended well.
I think you under estimate the amount of time he has found during his busy day/week to work on his weaknesses. Great tackle technique, soft hands and has now added the Smithy Shuffle. Chile or not, we will stand and applaud.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:45 pm
by Banquo
p/d wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:22 pm
Banquo wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:56 pm
p/d wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:53 pm

Am I reading that as Daly 13? If so, about time!!! El & Ol could be excellent.................. even if OF is servicing them. Throw in young Arundel and the backs will sparkle!!
All well and good v Chile. El has had a few goes at 13 intly to be fair.....none have ended well.
I think you under estimate the amount of time he has found during his busy day/week to work on his weaknesses. Great tackle technique, soft hands and has now added the Smithy Shuffle. Chile or not, we will stand and applaud.
:lol: :lol:

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 3:47 pm
by FKAS
Dunno why but seeing that team makes me think "shock first world cup win for Chile".

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:02 pm
by Oakboy
Mellsblue wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:17 pm https://x.com/willgkelleher/status/1704 ... MV3j-SK8yQ

Probable England XV to face Chile M Smith; M Malins, E Daly, O Lawrence, H Arundell; O Farrell, D Care; B Rodd, T Dan, K Sinckler, D Ribbans, G Martin, L Ludlam, J Willis, B Vunipola.
What happens if Chile don't drop the ball that's kicked to them? That back line, apart from Farrell, has rugby-playing potential theoretically.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm
by morepork
A tenner says Farrell gets at least a yellow.

I really hope your wingers are able to touch the ball at least a few times.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:57 pm
by Puja
morepork wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm A tenner says Farrell gets at least a yellow.
No bet
morepork wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm I really hope your wingers are able to touch the ball at least a few times.
Of course they will, don't be unfair! They're young, fast, talented, and gifted enough that they'll be able to get their hands to at least a few box-kicks each.

Puja

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:30 pm
by FKAS
Puja wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:57 pm
morepork wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm A tenner says Farrell gets at least a yellow.
No bet
morepork wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm I really hope your wingers are able to touch the ball at least a few times.
Of course they will, don't be unfair! They're young, fast, talented, and gifted enough that they'll be able to get their hands to at least a few box-kicks each.

Puja
The wingers will also get to field some kicks and perhaps return one or two their own.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:13 am
by Stom
morepork wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm A tenner says Farrell gets at least a yellow.

I really hope your wingers are able to touch the ball at least a few times.
If he gets a red and there is no injury to the poor Chilean who cops the headshot, I will be so happy.

Re: England vs Japan - Sunday

Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:48 am
by Oakboy
Stom wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:13 am
morepork wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm A tenner says Farrell gets at least a yellow.

I really hope your wingers are able to touch the ball at least a few times.
If he gets a red and there is no injury to the poor Chilean who cops the headshot, I will be so happy.
Do other countries have core players that attract the same degree of rancour that we direct at Farrell? And, do we reflect the general view among English fans?

On that latter point, last night at a post- racketball match meal, I listened to an opposition player with a good rugby background. He expressed the view that he was embarrassed at how lucky we were to end up with a bonus point win over Japan.

I find it rather amusing that other countries' fans still make suggestions of arrogance. In contrast to that perception, we seem to be largely self-denigrating these days. Last night, on one issue, there was consensus. Never before had we so much wanted Wales to win a game of rugby.