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I predict tonight at 10:37.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:46 am Do we know when the team is actually supposed to be announced or is that also just going to be a list of random times that could be right?
spot onMikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
I’d question the power and pace capabilies of both Slade and Lawrence for test level rugby ( regardless of which shirt numbers they wear )Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
Except for the handling bit for Laurence… Or the kicking. Or the power after contact for that matter. Or the ball presentation…Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:44 pmspot onMikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
jngf my dear fellow, how can you possibly question Lawrence's power and pace?jngf wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:11 pmI’d question the power and pace capabilies of both Slade and Lawrence for test level rugby ( regardless of which shirt numbers they wear )Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
Cheers. I remember a bit of hype around Olly Hartley until he got a bad knee injury.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
Is he really Rapid though?TheDasher wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:00 pmjngf my dear fellow, how can you possibly question Lawrence's power and pace?jngf wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:11 pmI’d question the power and pace capabilies of both Slade and Lawrence for test level rugby ( regardless of which shirt numbers they wear )Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
Jngf is questioning Lawrence's power and pace at test ruby level, I'd say he's quite fast yes and that his power and pace are not a concern. His athletic ability is his strong point. He's not Usain Bolt but he's not slow for a centre at all, he's pretty quick.
....he said pairing, which is fair. I mean of course you would want centres to have those traits/skills indvidually, but....Stom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:42 pmExcept for the handling bit for Laurence… Or the kicking. Or the power after contact for that matter. Or the ball presentation…Banquo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:44 pmspot onMikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:41 pm There's a bunch of centres in great Premiership/European form at the moment - Seb Atkinson, Fraser Dingwall, Oscar Beard, Will Butt/Max Ojomoh etc. - but they're all virtually untested.
Slade and Lawrence hasn't been clicking, but in theory it has most things you would want from a centre pairing - power, pace, handling, kicking etc. so it's not particularly clear at this point how much it is down to those two players, the coaching/tactics or just Marcus Smith being too much of a maverick for his centres to deal with.
So it’s just joining the dots on that evidence- it’s interesting for sureMellsblue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:43 pm https://theanalyst.com/2025/01/england- ... eview-2025
An interesting read but I’m not about sure about the analysis on Lawrence.
Yes that analysis on Lawrence looks like it was subcontracted to Blueseek ( or an early version of ChatGPT which may well be one and the same near enoughMellsblue wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:43 pm https://theanalyst.com/2025/01/england- ... eview-2025
An interesting read but I’m not about sure about the analysis on Lawrence.
)I mean the references to "the Opta Supercomputer" are to laugh. There's just some spod with a spreadsheet.Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 11:03 pm I don’t bet, and I don’t know how 0.5% of a chance at a grand slam translates to odds, but that sounds like it’s worth a punt if it’s seen to be that small a chance?