Re: Trump
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:27 pm
Melanie - the most bullied woman in the world - you mean?
Which Tyler wrote:
Much closer to a true lifemorepork wrote:Which Tyler wrote:
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I wrote a fucking massive response to you on here a while back about having become a twitter-obsessed moron over the last year and how it's destroying my brain but I can't stop looking at it, then the train went into a tunnel as I hit post and it disappeared. I'm sure it saved everyone from reading a whole load of pointless dribble, but I do agree. Nuance has no place in social media but its many people's only news source now.morepork wrote:It was unwise of her to engage the moron like that. No matter Harvard records show no attempt to enroll as a minority on Warren's part. Social meja has now taken over. It's impossible to get away from it. Note the spectacular lack of awareness of Trump tweeting "Thank you to the Cherokee Nation for revealing that Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to as Pocahontas, is a complete and total Fraud!" Condesceding racial slur. Nice work.
Twitter really is a fucking cancer.
Yep. I keep saying, history will not look kindly on social media. Much as I hate to admit it, I had to wean myself off Facebook. Once I realised that the longer you stay off the more emails they send you it turned in to a fun game. As you’ll be desperate to know, eight emails in one day was the record.Mikey Brown wrote:I wrote a fucking massive response to you on here a while back about having become a twitter-obsessed moron over the last year and how it's destroying my brain but I can't stop looking at it, then the train went into a tunnel as I hit post and it disappeared. I'm sure it saved everyone from reading a whole load of pointless dribble, but I do agree. Nuance has no place in social media but its many people's only news source now.morepork wrote:It was unwise of her to engage the moron like that. No matter Harvard records show no attempt to enroll as a minority on Warren's part. Social meja has now taken over. It's impossible to get away from it. Note the spectacular lack of awareness of Trump tweeting "Thank you to the Cherokee Nation for revealing that Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to as Pocahontas, is a complete and total Fraud!" Condesceding racial slur. Nice work.
Twitter really is a fucking cancer.
Mellsblue wrote:Yep. I keep saying, history will not look kindly on social media. Much as I hate to admit it, I had to wean myself off Facebook. Once I realised that the longer you stay off the more emails they send you it turned in to a fun game. As you’ll be desperate to know, eight emails in one day was the record.Mikey Brown wrote:I wrote a fucking massive response to you on here a while back about having become a twitter-obsessed moron over the last year and how it's destroying my brain but I can't stop looking at it, then the train went into a tunnel as I hit post and it disappeared. I'm sure it saved everyone from reading a whole load of pointless dribble, but I do agree. Nuance has no place in social media but its many people's only news source now.morepork wrote:It was unwise of her to engage the moron like that. No matter Harvard records show no attempt to enroll as a minority on Warren's part. Social meja has now taken over. It's impossible to get away from it. Note the spectacular lack of awareness of Trump tweeting "Thank you to the Cherokee Nation for revealing that Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to as Pocahontas, is a complete and total Fraud!" Condesceding racial slur. Nice work.
Twitter really is a fucking cancer.
Struggling to see how it’s possible to turn that into a fun game.morepork wrote:Mellsblue wrote:Yep. I keep saying, history will not look kindly on social media. Much as I hate to admit it, I had to wean myself off Facebook. Once I realised that the longer you stay off the more emails they send you it turned in to a fun game. As you’ll be desperate to know, eight emails in one day was the record.Mikey Brown wrote:
I wrote a fucking massive response to you on here a while back about having become a twitter-obsessed moron over the last year and how it's destroying my brain but I can't stop looking at it, then the train went into a tunnel as I hit post and it disappeared. I'm sure it saved everyone from reading a whole load of pointless dribble, but I do agree. Nuance has no place in social media but its many people's only news source now.
Now, if only you could ditch the PORN.
Frightening. It’s like listening to the day gobshyte at the bar and taking him seriously.morepork wrote:So many people do though mate.
Hit the nail on the head there Mikey.Mikey Brown wrote:I wrote a fucking massive response to you on here a while back about having become a twitter-obsessed moron over the last year and how it's destroying my brain but I can't stop looking at it, then the train went into a tunnel as I hit post and it disappeared. I'm sure it saved everyone from reading a whole load of pointless dribble, but I do agree. Nuance has no place in social media but its many people's only news source now.
What are the Dems doing to win seats, or are they counting on Trump losing votes for the GOP?morepork wrote:mmmmmm.....
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I'm going to have to give that one a hard no.
I'm going to guess that it wasn't a complete set-up, because he spent a good 20 seconds at the beginning reiterating the question and ambling about as he desperately tried to get his thoughts in order to make his answer right and unimpeachable. Very good speaking though - if he beats Cruz, you'd have to think he'll be destined for higher honours further down the line.WaspInWales wrote:What are the Dems doing to win seats, or are they counting on Trump losing votes for the GOP?morepork wrote:mmmmmm.....
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I'm going to have to give that one a hard no.
It didn't work last time.
I'd love to see someone show some initiative.
Beto seems a good candidate and it would be great to see him beating Cruz in Texas, but that's a big ask.
Not sure if anyone else has seen this clip...ignore the music, the message and common sense approach is what counts:
I'm not sure if the question and response was prepared, but well done that man!
I'm not sure exactly what you're picturing here, but I'm talking about it being a far quicker and more direct source of lots of different news outlets. You can follow the journalists and publications directly. It often arrives ages before anything appears on the BBC (for example) and it's quite helpful to see the skew/bias when comparing the same story coming from different angles.Sandydragon wrote:I don’t care what someone has had for lunch, and if you take those sites as a source of news then have a word with yourself.
But.....Mikey Brown wrote:I'm not sure exactly what you're picturing here, but I'm talking about it being a far quicker and more direct source of lots of different news outlets. You can follow the journalists and publications directly. It often arrives ages before anything appears on the BBC (for example) and it's quite helpful to see the skew/bias when comparing the same story coming from different angles.Sandydragon wrote:I don’t care what someone has had for lunch, and if you take those sites as a source of news then have a word with yourself.
The problem is there being no clear line between that and the ramblings of somebody who's either very (twitter) famous or simply said something so insane or outrageous that it's spreads like wildfire.
A lot of legit news is now just as much about regurgitating tweets as it is the other way round. It's created this odd situation where an actual fact or incisive bit of reporting might be considered total bollocks by many (I get the sense you are one) purely because it's a screenshot with a blue box around it. Equally you can just take the loudest, most obnoxious, ill-informed voice from the opposing side and use that to represent the entirety of people that disagree with you (or your news station) to get everyone all fired up and retarded.
So I definitely think it has a lot to offer, but people are too fucking stupid and impressionable to not get wrapped up in the vortex of hyperbole and misinformation.
It’s also very likely to be an echo chamber.Sandydragon wrote:But.....Mikey Brown wrote:I'm not sure exactly what you're picturing here, but I'm talking about it being a far quicker and more direct source of lots of different news outlets. You can follow the journalists and publications directly. It often arrives ages before anything appears on the BBC (for example) and it's quite helpful to see the skew/bias when comparing the same story coming from different angles.Sandydragon wrote:I don’t care what someone has had for lunch, and if you take those sites as a source of news then have a word with yourself.
The problem is there being no clear line between that and the ramblings of somebody who's either very (twitter) famous or simply said something so insane or outrageous that it's spreads like wildfire.
A lot of legit news is now just as much about regurgitating tweets as it is the other way round. It's created this odd situation where an actual fact or incisive bit of reporting might be considered total bollocks by many (I get the sense you are one) purely because it's a screenshot with a blue box around it. Equally you can just take the loudest, most obnoxious, ill-informed voice from the opposing side and use that to represent the entirety of people that disagree with you (or your news station) to get everyone all fired up and retarded.
So I definitely think it has a lot to offer, but people are too fucking stupid and impressionable to not get wrapped up in the vortex of hyperbole and misinformation.
Online all new sources appear to be equally authentic. I know that’s bollocks as well as you do, but it’s painfully clear many aren’t so sure.
Of course all media outlets have bias. But traditional media needs to be fairly sure of its facts or face legal action. Many alt news outlets don’t have that same degree of scrutiny and post all kinds of shyte. And that’s before we get onto the topic of troll farms.
Using news apps to get a wide input of new stories is one thing, but using Facebook or twitter as your sole means of getting information risks the inability to differentiate between fact and nonsense. Just to be clear, I’m not suggesting you can’t make that judgement. But, equally many people appear to struggle online on this.
I'd say that's all fair enough. I suppose the rabid extremes are easy to spot but there are a lot of smart, influential not-quite-journalists out there who appear pretty legit.Sandydragon wrote:But.....Mikey Brown wrote:I'm not sure exactly what you're picturing here, but I'm talking about it being a far quicker and more direct source of lots of different news outlets. You can follow the journalists and publications directly. It often arrives ages before anything appears on the BBC (for example) and it's quite helpful to see the skew/bias when comparing the same story coming from different angles.Sandydragon wrote:I don’t care what someone has had for lunch, and if you take those sites as a source of news then have a word with yourself.
The problem is there being no clear line between that and the ramblings of somebody who's either very (twitter) famous or simply said something so insane or outrageous that it's spreads like wildfire.
A lot of legit news is now just as much about regurgitating tweets as it is the other way round. It's created this odd situation where an actual fact or incisive bit of reporting might be considered total bollocks by many (I get the sense you are one) purely because it's a screenshot with a blue box around it. Equally you can just take the loudest, most obnoxious, ill-informed voice from the opposing side and use that to represent the entirety of people that disagree with you (or your news station) to get everyone all fired up and retarded.
So I definitely think it has a lot to offer, but people are too fucking stupid and impressionable to not get wrapped up in the vortex of hyperbole and misinformation.
Online all new sources appear to be equally authentic. I know that’s bollocks as well as you do, but it’s painfully clear many aren’t so sure.
Of course all media outlets have bias. But traditional media needs to be fairly sure of its facts or face legal action. Many alt news outlets don’t have that same degree of scrutiny and post all kinds of shyte. And that’s before we get onto the topic of troll farms.
Using news apps to get a wide input of new stories is one thing, but using Facebook or twitter as your sole means of getting information risks the inability to differentiate between fact and nonsense. Just to be clear, I’m not suggesting you can’t make that judgement. But, equally many people appear to struggle online on this.