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rowan wrote:Interesting that terrorists and civilians alike are being evacuated from Eastern Ghouta on luxury coach-lines without any sign of fire or harassment from the government forces now fully in control.

Also interesting that the main source for the allegations against Assad are again coming from the White Helmets, a US-funded, British-trained Jihadist organization embedded with the terrorists (and whose claims have been disproved in the past, notably by the father of 'the boy in the ambulance).

Also interesting that while Russia has been roundly condemned for vetoing a US resolution which was effectively set to condemn Assad (presumably on the above hearsay), two resolutions presented by Russia itself were not passed by the council - one actually calling for an endorsement of the ongoing OPCW investigation to establish whether a chemical attack had even taken place. So what have the US and its cronies got to hide??

Also interesting is that our glorious leader has joined the call for the US to bomb Syria as punishment. Contrary to popular belief relations with the US have never been better, and that is obviously because our glorious leader is a paragon of democracy, liberty and peace.

Tim Hayward column: https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2018/0 ... -guardian/

Stones of granite wrote:http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/sta ... -syria/en/
WHO is deeply alarmed by reports of the suspected use of toxic chemicals in Douma city, East Ghouta.

According to reports from Health Cluster partners, during the shelling of Douma on Saturday, an estimated 500 patients presented to health facilities exhibiting signs and symptoms consistent with exposure to toxic chemicals. In particular, there were signs of severe irritation of mucous membranes, respiratory failure and disruption to central nervous systems of those exposed.

More than 70 people sheltering in basements have reportedly died, with 43 of those deaths related to symptoms consistent with exposure to highly toxic chemicals. Two health facilities were also reportedly affected by these attacks.

"We should all be outraged at these horrific reports and images from Douma,” said Dr. Peter Salama, WHO Deputy Director- General for Emergency Preparedness and Response. “WHO demands immediate unhindered access to the area to provide care to those affected, to assess the health impacts, and to deliver a comprehensive public health response.”

Let's see if the Syrian Government allow the WHO "immediate unhindered access" to Douma city.

Stones of granite wrote:

rowan wrote:Interesting that terrorists and civilians alike are being evacuated from Eastern Ghouta on luxury coach-lines without any sign of fire or harassment from the government forces now fully in control.

Also interesting that the main source for the allegations against Assad are again coming from the White Helmets, a US-funded, British-trained Jihadist organization embedded with the terrorists (and whose claims have been disproved in the past, notably by the father of 'the boy in the ambulance).

Also interesting that while Russia has been roundly condemned for vetoing a US resolution which was effectively set to condemn Assad (presumably on the above hearsay), two resolutions presented by Russia itself were not passed by the council - one actually calling for an endorsement of the ongoing OPCW investigation to establish whether a chemical attack had even taken place. So what have the US and its cronies got to hide??

Also interesting is that our glorious leader has joined the call for the US to bomb Syria as punishment. Contrary to popular belief relations with the US have never been better, and that is obviously because our glorious leader is a paragon of democracy, liberty and peace.

Tim Hayward column: https://timhayward.wordpress.com/2018/0 ... -guardian/

Nope.

Stones of granite wrote:http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/sta ... -syria/en/
WHO is deeply alarmed by reports of the suspected use of toxic chemicals in Douma city, East Ghouta.

According to reports from Health Cluster partners, during the shelling of Douma on Saturday, an estimated 500 patients presented to health facilities exhibiting signs and symptoms consistent with exposure to toxic chemicals. In particular, there were signs of severe irritation of mucous membranes, respiratory failure and disruption to central nervous systems of those exposed.

More than 70 people sheltering in basements have reportedly died, with 43 of those deaths related to symptoms consistent with exposure to highly toxic chemicals. Two health facilities were also reportedly affected by these attacks.

"We should all be outraged at these horrific reports and images from Douma,” said Dr. Peter Salama, WHO Deputy Director- General for Emergency Preparedness and Response. “WHO demands immediate unhindered access to the area to provide care to those affected, to assess the health impacts, and to deliver a comprehensive public health response.”

Let's see if the Syrian Government allow the WHO "immediate unhindered access" to Douma city.

rowan wrote:
It says the allegations against Assad. Are you claiming therefore that WHO are directly blaming Assad? I don't see that in the reports. It also says the main source. There are actually two questions involved here. Firstly, was there a chemical weapons attack at all? WHO says yes but others say no. The Russians wanted this fact established before there was any apportioning of blame. That seems reasonable, surely. But the UN council failed to accept that resolution, then got upset when the Russians failed to accept one that appeared set to blame Assad before the facts had even been established.

Anyway, today Eastern Ghouta has finally been liberated from the terrorists. I assume you are as delighted about this development as I am. With the government back in control of another key area stability might finally be restored to Syria - notwithstanding the north where NATO forces are still on the offensive.

Digby wrote:If you must quote it could you maybe take out most of the content in the quote box?

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:If you must quote it could you maybe take out most of the content in the quote box?

Easier said than done.

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:If you must quote it could you maybe take out most of the content in the quote box?

Easier said than done.

You could just stick him on ignore and assume he's posting a long winded and tiresome conspiracy theory utterly lacking in sense, some with a copy and paste and others not.

In other news France/Macron announces they have proof Assad used chemical weapons on his own people.

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote: Easier said than done.

You could just stick him on ignore and assume he's posting a long winded and tiresome conspiracy theory utterly lacking in sense, some with a copy and paste and others not.

In other news France/Macron announces they have proof Assad used chemical weapons on his own people.

What, and miss out on all the latest news from the 3rd division of the Upper Volta transgender 7s league?

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:
You could just stick him on ignore and assume he's posting a long winded and tiresome conspiracy theory utterly lacking in sense, some with a copy and paste and others not.

In other news France/Macron announces they have proof Assad used chemical weapons on his own people.

What, and miss out on all the latest news from the 3rd division of the Upper Volta transgender 7s league?

Dear god, every fool knows the real action is in The Gambia

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote: What, and miss out on all the latest news from the 3rd division of the Upper Volta transgender 7s league?

Dear god, every fool knows the real action is in The Gambia

The Gambia is an artificial construct owing its originals to the Imperialist British and their genocidal approach to murdering baby rugby players. To even mention the Gamia makes it obvious that you are apologist for Winston Churchill, Cromwell and the British Imperialist exploitation of the West African slave trade.
So there.

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:
Dear god, every fool knows the real action is in The Gambia

The Gambia is an artificial construct owing its originals to the Imperialist British and their genocidal approach to murdering baby rugby players. To even mention the Gamia makes it obvious that you are apologist for Winston Churchill, Cromwell and the British Imperialist exploitation of the West African slave trade.
So there.

Which Cromwell?

Digby wrote:It does rather sound like May wants to get involved in whatever France and the USA sign up to, and as Parliament isn't trusted they're simply going to state no boots on the ground means it's not a military involvement we need a parliamentary vote on. May may be right or not, but the sovereignty of Parliament is at best wobbly

Mellsblue wrote:

Digby wrote:It does rather sound like May wants to get involved in whatever France and the USA sign up to, and as Parliament isn't trusted they're simply going to state no boots on the ground means it's not a military involvement we need a parliamentary vote on. May may be right or not, but the sovereignty of Parliament is at best wobbly

There is no requirement for the executive to go to parliament before taking military action, and there never has been. It was Cameron who put the current system in motion, but it is nothing more than a courtesy that May can decide not at adhere to at any point.

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote: The Gambia is an artificial construct owing its originals to the Imperialist British and their genocidal approach to murdering baby rugby players. To even mention the Gamia makes it obvious that you are apologist for Winston Churchill, Cromwell and the British Imperialist exploitation of the West African slave trade.
So there.

Which Cromwell?

Dang. You found me out.

LOOK! A SQUIRREL!!!!

Digby wrote:

Stones of granite wrote:

Digby wrote:
Which Cromwell?

Dang. You found me out.

LOOK! A SQUIRREL!!!!

I hate squirrels

Stones of granite wrote: Racist.

rowan wrote:Trump, May, Erdogan, Netanyahu, the House of Saud - that's quite a lineup calling for action against the Syrian government just as it closes in on victory over the terrorists. Oh, and let's not forget Macron, who claims he has ze evidence against the Syrian government but fails to actually produce it. What a headline that made in the mainstream corporate propaganda of the West! In fact, the US, NATO, EU alliance and the custom-made vassal petro-state of Kuwait make up almost half of the UN permanent council members (7/15) which voted down Russia's resolution for an inquiry into whether a chemical attack had actually taken place, but voted for the one effectively condemning Assad - which Russia ultimately vetoed (China abstaining, significantly). The Latin phrase Cui bono? remains a standard question in modern law and investigating, and the answer here is clearly not the Syrian army as it finally drives the terrorists out of their last remaining stronghold. Actually, it is giving them free passage out on luxury coach-lines, and has been for some time . . .

Stones of granite wrote: Cui bono? Is there a caveat with that?