America

[Digby]

Is Tulsi still trying to sue Hillary? Whatever idiot is behind that idea needs to be fired, it might get her some press right now but it's going to make it so much harder to last in politics and she's still very young

[Coco]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

I am registered as independent and quite frankly I find it hard to see the primary competition.

Warren was my preferred candidate, but she makes too many mistakes. Policy wise, no one comes even close. I have concerns on her character.

Klobuchar is second in my list. She doesn’t have a lot of following.

Buttigieg Seems to have character, I am not sure he has enough experience. Also policy wise I am not sure he has passion for any specific issue.

The other Bs? Too old. Yes, I am an ageist!

Harris was the one I hoped would fare better.



Gabbard? I don’t know why she hasn’t withdrawn from the field. I cannot see anything both in terms of character or policies. Or followers. She appears a lot on Fox: that is not where you get primary votes. It is suspicious.

Being in/from California, Harris was not a blip on my radar. I had hopes for a better Democrat or Indy candidate but it is not looking well for any of them to me. Everyone seems to be scrambling and cutting eachothers throats. Tulsi seemed ok but nobody really knew who she was.... and yeah Im not sure why she has not dropped out.

[Coco]

Is Tulsi still trying to sue Hillary? Whatever idiot is behind that idea needs to be fired, it might get her some press right now but it's going to make it so much harder to last in politics and she's still very young

No idea... Id tread carefully with the Clinton body count growing ..lol

[morepork]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

A woman with balls is needed. Nice one. Why do you think a woman needs to be thick skinned specifically? No one advanced gender over qualification on this thread. Gusto; noun; enjoyment or vigor in doing something. Warren has been consistently vigorous in a professional context for decades. She definitely has balls. I'm not a disciple of Warren by any stretch, but I aint seeing a more vigorous alternative in the circus yet. You've never felt oppressed a day in your life. Good for you. Why are women so underrepresented in positions of corporate and public power in America? Are you in fact actually inferior?


what do I think of Polynesian GI Jane? Not much.

[Digby]

That a women has to be thick skinned but a man doesn't to replace perhaps the most thin skinned president of our times is an interesting observation

[Mikey Brown]

[Coco]

OK, that is a little icky.

America is ready for a woman to hold the top job, but there has not been a thick skinned woman with balls ready to take the stage. Warren does not have the gusto.... or much else. As a woman, I get tired of hearing how oppressed our gender is, and how unfair women get treated. I dont buy in to that nonsense and certainly have never felt oppressed a day in my life.
In fact just the opposite. If you dont want to be treated like a doormat then you need to get up off the floor.

Whatcha think about Tulsi?

A woman with balls is needed. Nice one. Why do you think a woman needs to be thick skinned specifically? No one advanced gender over qualification on this thread. Gusto; noun; enjoyment or vigor in doing something. Warren has been consistently vigorous in a professional context for decades. She definitely has balls. I'm not a disciple of Warren by any stretch, but I aint seeing a more vigorous alternative in the circus yet. You've never felt oppressed a day in your life. Good for you. Why are women so underrepresented in positions of corporate and public power in America? Are you in fact actually inferior?


what do I think of Polynesian GI Jane? Not much.

I dont find Warren to be anything but a screeching gasbag... and by balls or thick skin I am referring to any woman up there not feeling she needs to throw down the "because I am a woman" card at every fucking turn. Ffs women arent under represented corporate or public power... and by what measure are you evenmaking that determination? You are assuming every woman in the work force wants that for themselves... not all of us do. Get over yourself.

[Digby]

I dont find Warren to be anything but a screeching gasbag.

You must hate Trump then

[morepork]

Coco smash!

Experience is my guide in that underrepresented statement. Observation. If 50% of a population are underrepresented in a sample space, and the probability of being selected in a sample of the whole population is assumed to be random, then significant deviations from a 50:50 gender split indicate selection bias. No black magic, simply the laws of probability at work, which are profoundly more objective than anecdote. If you are on the floor, why are you down there?

Thanks for she-mansplaning the normal distribution and deviations from. I just need to get over myself! So simple! Fuck facts, weak cliched metaphor is where it’s at.


That being said,

Good to hear from you after a long time snowflake.

[Coco]

Coco smash!

Experience is my guide in that underrepresented statement. Observation. If 50% of a population are underrepresented in a sample space, and the probability of being selected in a sample of the whole population is assumed to be random, then significant deviations from a 50:50 gender split indicate selection bias. No black magic, simply the laws of probability at work, which are profoundly more objective than anecdote. If you are on the floor, why are you down there?

Thanks for she-mansplaning the normal distribution and deviations from. I just need to get over myself! So simple! Fuck facts, weak cliched metaphor is where it’s at.


That being said,

Good to hear from you after a long time snowflake.

Hope you and yours are keeping healthy and 6 feet apart during this CoVid19 lockdown... and what is with everyone going mad and hoarding toilet paper? Seriously... what in the hell? I stocked up on hibiclens but toilet paper wasnt even on my radar... am I the weirdo then? Anyway hope you all are safe <3

[morepork]

Kia Ora my lovely. All good here. Scientists are high up in the food chain now. Getting on with getting on. Doing the odd grocery run for some old timers in the hood and keeping busy.

Be safe

[Eugene Wrayburn]

That a women has to be thick skinned but a man doesn't to replace perhaps the most thin skinned president of our times is an interesting observation

Quite.

And "screechy" has never been anything but a cipher for "not a man".

Anyone who doesn't think that women have any more obstacles than men might read Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez.

[Mikey Brown]

Didn't seem worth contributing to the actual COVID discussion thread, but there we go.

[canta_brian]

That a women has to be thick skinned but a man doesn't to replace perhaps the most thin skinned president of our times is an interesting observation

Quite.

And "screechy" has never been anything but a cipher for "not a man".

Anyone who doesn't think that women have any more obstacles than men might read Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez.

A friend has just passed on a copy to me.

[Son of Mathonwy]

Didn't seem worth contributing to the actual COVID discussion thread, but there we go.

The logical conclusion of right-wing libertarianism?

[Sandydragon]

The Mayor of Las Vegas is apparently happy to use her city as a giant experiment for doing fuck all to defeat the virus.

How do these people get elected?

[morepork]

The Mayor of Las Vegas is apparently happy to use her city as a giant experiment for doing fuck all to defeat the virus.

How do these people get elected?

Fuck my arse, what a complete idiot.

She should run for president.

[canta_brian]

The Mayor of Las Vegas is apparently happy to use her city as a giant experiment for doing fuck all to defeat the virus.

How do these people get elected?

Fuck my arse, what a complete idiot.

She should run for president.

Overqualified?

[Which Tyler]

[Son of Mathonwy]

Ironic that people who don't believe in evolution are most likely to end up with a Darwin award.

[Digby]

The Mayor of Las Vegas is apparently happy to use her city as a giant experiment for doing fuck all to defeat the virus.

How do these people get elected?

She might care to enquire in Brazil how things are going there. Also I wonder how things like social distancing will work in a place like Vegas, which in truth is often seemingly empty bar a small handful of places, when they've so many large rooms where you could fairly easily stand 2m apart but you'd all be breathing the same recycled air. Although on that last it'll apply to many office blocks too, most office blocks are fairly shit at cleaning their air con already and surely can't be set up to screen out covid

[Sandydragon]

The Mayor of Las Vegas is apparently happy to use her city as a giant experiment for doing fuck all to defeat the virus.

How do these people get elected?

She might care to enquire in Brazil how things are going there. Also I wonder how things like social distancing will work in a place like Vegas, which in truth is often seemingly empty bar a small handful of places, when they've so many large rooms where you could fairly easily stand 2m apart but you'd all be breathing the same recycled air. Although on that last it'll apply to many office blocks too, most office blocks are fairly shit at cleaning their air con already and surely can't be set up to screen out covid

Given how transient Vegas' population is, I don't see how reopening Casinos and so on would have any positive effect. It will only work when people can travel there and want to spend money. But I don't get the impression that the Mayor is too firmly grounded in reality.

[Digby]

The Mayor of Las Vegas is apparently happy to use her city as a giant experiment for doing fuck all to defeat the virus.

How do these people get elected?

She might care to enquire in Brazil how things are going there. Also I wonder how things like social distancing will work in a place like Vegas, which in truth is often seemingly empty bar a small handful of places, when they've so many large rooms where you could fairly easily stand 2m apart but you'd all be breathing the same recycled air. Although on that last it'll apply to many office blocks too, most office blocks are fairly shit at cleaning their air con already and surely can't be set up to screen out covid

Given how transient Vegas' population is, I don't see how reopening Casinos and so on would have any positive effect. It will only work when people can travel there and want to spend money. But I don't get the impression that the Mayor is too firmly grounded in reality.

Vegas doesn't really do reality, other than its whole is based on the abuse of labour. Without question one of the weirdest places I've been. Is she asking though for people to be able to travel as normal, or for some restrictions on the denizens of Vegas to be lifted? If she's asking for free travel to and fro Vegas she's not really just offering her city as a giant experiment

[Sandydragon]

She might care to enquire in Brazil how things are going there. Also I wonder how things like social distancing will work in a place like Vegas, which in truth is often seemingly empty bar a small handful of places, when they've so many large rooms where you could fairly easily stand 2m apart but you'd all be breathing the same recycled air. Although on that last it'll apply to many office blocks too, most office blocks are fairly shit at cleaning their air con already and surely can't be set up to screen out covid

Given how transient Vegas' population is, I don't see how reopening Casinos and so on would have any positive effect. It will only work when people can travel there and want to spend money. But I don't get the impression that the Mayor is too firmly grounded in reality.

Vegas doesn't really do reality, other than its whole is based on the abuse of labour. Without question one of the weirdest places I've been. Is she asking though for people to be able to travel as normal, or for some restrictions on the denizens of Vegas to be lifted? If she's asking for free travel to and fro Vegas she's not really just offering her city as a giant experiment

Its a very weird place. Looks great at night but travel in from the outskirts in day time and its a whole different matter.

key extracts here:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/23/poli ... index.html

You can watch the good Mayor here live (not sure all of the interview has been included):

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... yn-goodman

[Coco]

Given how transient Vegas' population is, I don't see how reopening Casinos and so on would have any positive effect. It will only work when people can travel there and want to spend money. But I don't get the impression that the Mayor is too firmly grounded in reality.

Vegas doesn't really do reality, other than its whole is based on the abuse of labour. Without question one of the weirdest places I've been. Is she asking though for people to be able to travel as normal, or for some restrictions on the denizens of Vegas to be lifted? If she's asking for free travel to and fro Vegas she's not really just offering her city as a giant experiment

Its a very weird place. Looks great at night but travel in from the outskirts in day time and its a whole different matter.

key extracts here:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/23/poli ... index.html

You can watch the good Mayor here live (not sure all of the interview has been included):

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... yn-goodman

I lived there from 89 - 97... great times... great experiences... met some great people.... but it was a planet all its own.