Re: COVID19
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:11 am
You will not know if you're immune to this or a mutated version in round 2, 3, 4,... and too you'd need more than one test showing you're currently negative for the virus. I think
I know, it's only a test to show if you have the antigens...one of the reasons I'm not too fussed about having the test is I don't think it makes much difference.Digby wrote:You will not know if you're immune to this or a mutated version in round 2, 3, 4,... and too you'd need more than one test showing you're currently negative for the virus. I think
Agreed. Italy is in a bad shape, but certain factors are in play there which make transmission easier and give it greater impact which don't really happen here so much. That said, we have factors that will help/hinder the virus which are unique so there is only so much that can be understood from other countries data.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:There's not a massive amount of point in comparing raw numbers across countries it seems to me. What you can usefully look at is progression in other countries to predict progression in your own and the effect of certain restrictions. Obviously there are cultural differences and weird outliers - something decidedly weird is going on in Japan's numbers - which will affect all these things. The rate of doubling of deaths is probably the best indicator we have.
Anyway my favourite resource with apologies if it has already been shared is: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus# ... m-covid-19
I'd love to know what the other deaths in that spike have been attributed to. I'm assuming that is a victim had cancer then the cause of death has been recorded as cancer rather than COVID19 which has caused that death to be premature?Donny osmond wrote:In pictorial formcanta_brian wrote:This is the one.Which Tyler wrote:
"The town of Nembro, near Bergamo, had 158 deaths so far this year Vs 35 on average in the recent past.
Only 31 deaths were attributed to Covid-19"
Of course, some of those will be undiagnosed COVID deaths, and some secondary as equipment and care isn't available for others when capacity is taken up with COVID.
Also
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/ ... 82846.html
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COVID 19 is notifiable, therefore is recorded as cause of death if no other notifiable condition is present. So not a totally clear picture.Sandydragon wrote:I'd love to know what the other deaths in that spike have been attributed to. I'm assuming that is a victim had cancer then the cause of death has been recorded as cancer rather than COVID19 which has caused that death to be premature?Donny osmond wrote:In pictorial form
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Stom wrote:That's the thing, I have also been symptomatic, but those symptoms can also be attributed to other things, too.canta_brian wrote:That’s what I was trying to do at 4 am! Fail on my part. But I’m symptomatic for the Covid plague (mild only so don’t start a fundraiser) so I’m not all that good at anything right now.Donny osmond wrote:In pictorial form
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My wife and I have been offered tests by a client of my wife's, but I'm unsure whether we should take them. On one hand, it would be good to know if we've had it, so are currently immune, but on the other hand, it could potentially be a lot more use to someone else.
Sandydragon wrote:I'd love to know what the other deaths in that spike have been attributed to. I'm assuming that is a victim had cancer then the cause of death has been recorded as cancer rather than COVID19 which has caused that death to be premature?Donny osmond wrote:In pictorial form
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Because we've completely self-isolated, so if we had it, it's gone already? I guess you're right, I just thought there was a potential shortage of testing kits and more at risk or less isolated people should be tested first (we live deep in the suburbs, we're pretty damn isolated).morepork wrote:Stom wrote:That's the thing, I have also been symptomatic, but those symptoms can also be attributed to other things, too.canta_brian wrote: That’s what I was trying to do at 4 am! Fail on my part. But I’m symptomatic for the Covid plague (mild only so don’t start a fundraiser) so I’m not all that good at anything right now.
My wife and I have been offered tests by a client of my wife's, but I'm unsure whether we should take them. On one hand, it would be good to know if we've had it, so are currently immune, but on the other hand, it could potentially be a lot more use to someone else.
If you are positive, you then know to stay the fuck away from anyone, and the data is useful. There is no treatment for coronavirus. Basically it's supplemental oxygen for as long a period as it takes the body to heal itself. What's the diff if you or someone else gets tested in that environment?
Ross Perot was right then, trickle down does workmorepork wrote:Sandydragon wrote:I'd love to know what the other deaths in that spike have been attributed to. I'm assuming that is a victim had cancer then the cause of death has been recorded as cancer rather than COVID19 which has caused that death to be premature?Donny osmond wrote:In pictorial form
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Would the cancer patient have died if they weren't exposed to the virus? Ditto flu and other ailments. That's the evil genius of swamping health facilities all at once. The trickle down is devestating.
Stom wrote:Because we've completely self-isolated, so if we had it, it's gone already? I guess you're right, I just thought there was a potential shortage of testing kits and more at risk or less isolated people should be tested first (we live deep in the suburbs, we're pretty damn isolated).morepork wrote:Stom wrote:
That's the thing, I have also been symptomatic, but those symptoms can also be attributed to other things, too.
My wife and I have been offered tests by a client of my wife's, but I'm unsure whether we should take them. On one hand, it would be good to know if we've had it, so are currently immune, but on the other hand, it could potentially be a lot more use to someone else.
If you are positive, you then know to stay the fuck away from anyone, and the data is useful. There is no treatment for coronavirus. Basically it's supplemental oxygen for as long a period as it takes the body to heal itself. What's the diff if you or someone else gets tested in that environment?
Little?morepork wrote:FuckBook growing a pair?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52106321
Bolsonaro seems a right odious little cunt.
Think Trump with even less inhibitions. Utter cock.morepork wrote:FuckBook growing a pair?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52106321
Bolsonaro seems a right odious little cunt.
Duterte Harry has been a bit quiet of late. I’m surprised he hasn’t ordered the shooting of anyone with a sniff.Stom wrote:Little?morepork wrote:FuckBook growing a pair?
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52106321
Bolsonaro seems a right odious little cunt.
He’s one of the holy septuplets of cuntdom, along with Trump, Modi, Duterte, Putin, Erdogan, and my glorious Viktator.
Lying cunts.canta_brian wrote:
Here Eug, what should I be thinking about this then... Scottish Govt emergency legislation to suspend trial by jury and treble FOI request time limit to 60 days.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Lying cunts.canta_brian wrote:
If you aren't interested in actual deaths it doesn't matter that they are under-reporting as long as they do that consistently.canta_brian wrote:Reported deaths though. Hang on I will quote the post and bring it forward.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:There's not a massive amount of point in comparing raw numbers across countries it seems to me. What you can usefully look at is progression in other countries to predict progression in your own and the effect of certain restrictions. Obviously there are cultural differences and weird outliers - something decidedly weird is going on in Japan's numbers - which will affect all these things. The rate of doubling of deaths is probably the best indicator we have.
Anyway my favourite resource with apologies if it has already been shared is: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus# ... m-covid-19
FOI, meh. Civil Service is unlikely to have capacity to deal with anything at the moment anyway.Donny osmond wrote:Here Eug, what should I be thinking about this then... Scottish Govt emergency legislation to suspend trial by jury and treble FOI request time limit to 60 days.Eugene Wrayburn wrote:Lying cunts.canta_brian wrote:
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Eugene Wrayburn wrote:FOI, meh. Civil Service is unlikely to have capacity to deal with anything at the moment anyway.Donny osmond wrote:Here Eug, what should I be thinking about this then... Scottish Govt emergency legislation to suspend trial by jury and treble FOI request time limit to 60 days.Eugene Wrayburn wrote: Lying cunts.
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