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Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:The only palatable candidate is Wallace. All others are trash.

He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.

I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.

Which Tyler wrote:

Zhivago wrote:The only palatable candidate is Wallace. All others are trash.

I've said it before (twice), and I'll say it again - Larry Mouser for PM

I agree - he'd be purrfect

Dear God will the man not take the hint and just fuck off?!

Which Tyler wrote:

That is fucking hilarious.

Puja

Zhivago wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:The only palatable candidate is Wallace. All others are trash.

He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.

I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.

I’d like him to have some proper ministerial responsibility first, so one for the future.

It looks like Boris hasn’t submitted his resignation to the queen. I assumed that he needed to speak to the palace first and once the queen had accepted his resignation, then brief the media etc.

Instead he has promised to resign once a new leader is found. I’m sure May and Cameron both resigned as prime minister and agreed to continue until a replacement was found. Why do I have a feeling that Boris is trying to pull a fast one?

Sandydragon wrote:It looks like Boris hasn’t submitted his resignation to the queen. I assumed that he needed to speak to the palace first and once the queen had accepted his resignation, then brief the media etc.

Instead he has promised to resign once a new leader is found. I’m sure May and Cameron both resigned as prime minister and agreed to continue until a replacement was found. Why do I have a feeling that Boris is trying to pull a fast one?

cos he's a liar

If he is forced out of office before 30 July, he well be hoping the new incumbent is of a generous nature ..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 18263.html

Galfon wrote:If he is forced out of office before 30 July, he well be hoping the new incumbent is of a generous nature ..
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 18263.html

Send him the bill

Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.

I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.

I’d like him to have some proper ministerial responsibility first, so one for the future.

Ben Wallace as PM
Tom Tugendhat as Home Secretary
Tobias Ellwood as Defence Secretary
Lucy Allan as Chancellor
Richard Graham as Foreign Secretary

So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?

Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?

Looks like it..
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'

'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)

As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Galfon wrote:

Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?

Looks like it..
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'

'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)

As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?

I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

Puja wrote: I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

I had assumed this was in the t&c’s when we signed up? If I need to state it every time I make a post I’m not 100% on I’m going to have to tell the family they won’t be seeing as much of me.

Sandydragon wrote:

Zhivago wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: He would be my pick out of the obvious candidates.

I also wouldn't mind Tugendhat, but I'm not sure he's in the running.

I’d like him to have some proper ministerial responsibility first, so one for the future.

Here’s his pitch:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -minister/

Puja wrote:

Galfon wrote:

Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?

Looks like it..
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'

'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)

As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?

I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

Its no lose for labour tbh- the vote if carried leads to an election the tories can't win (not least cos Boris would probs be leader) and if as more likely doesn't win, they can just point to Tories voting to keep Boris at the helm, even if as caretaker.

Meanwhile, Rome is burning.

Banquo wrote: Meanwhile, Rome is burning.

You’ve seen the covid rates on the continent then

Mellsblue wrote:

Banquo wrote: Meanwhile, Rome is burning.

You’ve seen the covid rates on the continent then

aye, gone a bit bonkers

Puja wrote:

Galfon wrote:

Banquo wrote:So Labour will table a no confidence vote- do they need a 2/3 majority to get parliament dissolved and an election?

Looks like it..
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'

'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)

As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?

I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

Yes, I think the 2/3s bit was all about the fixed term act. Traditionally, losing a no confidence vote by any margin was enough

Mellsblue wrote:

Puja wrote: I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

I had assumed this was in the t&c’s when we signed up? If I need to state it every time I make a post I’m not 100% on I’m going to have to tell the family they won’t be seeing as much of me.

FFS, you both need to try harder. This board demands perfection or else the inability to admit to not being entirely correct all of the time!

Sandydragon wrote:

Puja wrote:

Galfon wrote: Looks like it..
'An early parliamentary general election is to take place if—
the number of members who vote in favour of the motion is a number equal to or greater than two thirds of the number of seats in the House (including vacant seats).'

'The Queen has a duty to appoint as PM the MP best placed to command the confidence of the Commons. That duty only arises once it is clear who is best placed. The Queen has no residual discretion.'
(i.e. sorted somehow in the House..)

As the hard-working MP's are due the Summer recess in 2 weeks,
they'd have to get pedalling.
Can't see the Tories wanting the throw the baby out with the bathwater.

I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?

I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

Yes, I think the 2/3s bit was all about the fixed term act. Traditionally, losing a no confidence vote by any margin was enough

Is the FTA fully obliterated?

Banquo wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Puja wrote:
I had thought they only needed a majority - the 2/3rd thing was with the fixed term parliaments act, which is no longer law. I thought if a vote showed that the house did not have confidence in the government, then the government had to go down?

I reserve the right to be wrong, at all times.

Puja

Yes, I think the 2/3s bit was all about the fixed term act. Traditionally, losing a no confidence vote by any margin was enough

Is the FTA fully obliterated?

it appears so, this year..
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/trie ... s-restored

standing corrected

The first line of the Dissolution and Calling of Parliaments Act is that the FTA is repealed, with no exceptions identified. Everything seems to point towards it being a simple majority of the votes cast.