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Any increase is likely to favour the Dems, so yes
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That'd be the theory alright but is it going to materialise that way..............strange times
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That I can't possibly judge, it makes no sense to me to even consider voting Trump, but clearly people keep doing it
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Digby wrote:That I can't possibly judge, it makes no sense to me to even consider voting Trump, but clearly people keep doing it
Because the alternative would apparently instantly turn your state into Venezuela.

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Granted the Senate seats up for grabs made the upper house a harder target for the Dems to win back, nonetheless this result nicely sums up the mess
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I see Nevada managed to elect a dead guy...

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Win win for trump, unless they get something big or he does something majorly wrong (seems impossible given the state of things) he's going to be returned in 2 years time, going to be ugly
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Puja wrote:
Digby wrote:That I can't possibly judge, it makes no sense to me to even consider voting Trump, but clearly people keep doing it
Because the alternative would apparently instantly turn your state into Venezuela.

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I can't imagine Trump would try to get his hands on gold reserves belonging to the nation without satisfying he wasn't merely looking to flog it for personal enrichment

Also Trump wouldn't ignore he's legally not allowed to do something without the agreement of say congress just because he disagreed with the electorate voting for people not in his party

Say what you like of Trump but he's a man of high moral standards, probably the greatest most highest morals ever
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Pretty pleased with how things panned out. It was always going to be tough for the Dems to win the Senate, but winning control of the House is a great result, and as Pelosi said, it's about restoring checks and balances on Trump and his administration.

Bit surprised by the news that Trump has forced the resignation of Sessions. It seems he is shitting it about the prospect of impeachment, and possibly the Dems looking into his business practices, finances and tax returns. Could Trump be about to pull the plug on the Mueller investigation too?

If he was going to do that, surely the best time would be before the Dems had control...although, there's then the risk of losing voters.

He is looking on thin ice at the moment.
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Having wondered if one might feel sorry for Jeff Sessions in the event he was forced out I find the answer is no. Sessions is a poor excuse of a man
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And another day another shooting, this time at a bar in California. I've not seen any reports of fatalities, yet

Accounts suggest an attack was made using smoke grenades and a gun, obviously if people had been there to return fire across a crowded smoke filled bar this could likely have been averted
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Digby wrote:And another day another shooting, this time at a bar in California. I've not seen any reports of fatalities, yet

Accounts suggest an attack was made using smoke grenades and a gun, obviously if people had been there to return fire across a crowded smoke filled bar this could likely have been averted
Obviously, the problem was that California has just about the most restrictive firearms laws in the US, so there was unlikely to be anyone else in the bar who was armed.
Obviously....
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Stones of granite wrote:
Digby wrote:And another day another shooting, this time at a bar in California. I've not seen any reports of fatalities, yet

Accounts suggest an attack was made using smoke grenades and a gun, obviously if people had been there to return fire across a crowded smoke filled bar this could likely have been averted
Obviously, the problem was that California has just about the most restrictive firearms laws in the US, so there was unlikely to be anyone else in the bar who was armed.
Obviously....
Hard to know at this stage if decent people were the targets. It's California which suggests Dems, but a country music event which suggests republicans

Either way more guns are needed
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The man is on a mission to get so much wrong it's impossible to take it all in, there is indeed a horse loose in the hospital
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Trump forgets Hindus from a list of those celebrating devali
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And confuses Baltic nations with Balkans, confusing the shit out of the Estonian and Lithuanian leaders when he made comments about their wars in the 1990s.

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Puja wrote:And confuses Baltic nations with Balkans, confusing the shit out of the Estonian and Lithuanian leaders when he made comments about their wars in the 1990s.

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He'd have been okay if he knew where his wife was from
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Digby wrote:
Puja wrote:And confuses Baltic nations with Balkans, confusing the shit out of the Estonian and Lithuanian leaders when he made comments about their wars in the 1990s.

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He'd have been okay if he knew where his wife was from
I think his wife stopped speaking to him many years ago and he stopped listening to her a long time before that.

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Over a thousand missing in California isn't the obvious starting point for comedy, but Fins getting busy taking photos with rakes and even vacuum cleaners in forests has I confess had me chortling

How anyone is taking the odious bastard seriously is less a cause for good humour
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Lock her up, lock her up...

That said kudos to Trump for being behind the bipartisan move to give some wider discretion to judges on the three strikes and out sentencing nonsense. It seems an obvious move but it's only happening, perhaps, under Trump
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Wow. His statement on Khashoggi/Saudi is insane.
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Mikey Brown wrote:Wow. His statement on Khashoggi/Saudi is insane.
Yep, those were the ramblings of a man who considers himself a genius, a stable one at that.

However, is the decision any surprise?

Had this happened under Obama's watch, would anyone expect ties to be cut? Considering the wealth the Saudis supply to the US, I'm sure they could get away with, erm...murder. Hmm perhaps a better metaphor is needed in this case.

The UK were pissed and decided to withdraw a few people from a convention, but will we be cancelling defence contracts?
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Regarding my previous comments, I think other administrations would definitely deal with the situation differently on the outside. They'd be openly critical of the Saudis, perhaps even demand answers and possibly expel a couple of diplomats for good measure, but I think the end result will be the same as in they would still welcome the money coming in.

Trump is a complete buffoon, with the grace and public speaking skills of an idiot. It is because he lacks any diplomacy skills, he is unable to be eloquent in serious (or any) situations such as this. He is no doubt being encouraged not to be critical of the Saudis as many people around him probably stand to make a lot of money in deals, but he still struggles to be coherent.

I also think this situation appeals to much of his base. They've been sold the 'America first' dogma, and even though the vast majority won't benefit from arms/infrastructure sales to Saudi Arabia, they remain convinced Trump is doing it for them.
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You’re probably about right. What do I know. Yet again this thread makes me want to throw myself out of the window.
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Mikey Brown wrote:You’re probably about right. What do I know. Yet again this thread makes me want to throw myself out of the window.
If you're in a bungalow that's not very interesting, but four or more stories up and you'd get some media coverage

And Mike on a ledge has at least a 50/50 shot at being better than Man on a ledge
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