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Mikey Brown wrote:Oh god. I don't even know what to say. France are a much improved side but they were there for the taking today. So much effort and good work undone by dumb penalties, poor execution of basics and seemingly not a hint of any attacking strategy.

General Zod wrote:I know he messed up a line out and ran into his own man, but I’d start Turner v Ireland (I presume it’s them we’re playing).

I’d drop Kinghorn and Price (after his earlier promise). Let’s see what SHC has got.

We really need to become better offensively. We seem to be relying on defence then hoping something turns up in attack.

Banquo wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:Oh god. I don't even know what to say. France are a much improved side but they were there for the taking today. So much effort and good work undone by dumb penalties, poor execution of basics and seemingly not a hint of any attacking strategy.

I think France would say the same about themselves. Their restarts, lineouts and discipline were all a shambles.

General Zod wrote:I’ve calmed down slightly now.

While France were there for the taking today, I think that if we get a win at the bedpan, it will have been a good autumn.

francoisfou wrote:

General Zod wrote:I’ve calmed down slightly now.

While France were there for the taking today, I think that if we get a win at the bedpan, it will have been a good autumn.

For what it’s worth, I’ll be cheering for your boys!

francoisfou wrote:

Banquo wrote:

Mikey Brown wrote:Oh god. I don't even know what to say. France are a much improved side but they were there for the taking today. So much effort and good work undone by dumb penalties, poor execution of basics and seemingly not a hint of any attacking strategy.

I think France would say the same about themselves. Their restarts, lineouts and discipline were all a shambles.

So true. I had high hopes that France would continue to show improvement but today was a retrogressive step against a mediocre opposition. Italy next with significant changes before probably facing England in a couple of weeks. Still, I enjoyed listening to Barnes’ French!!

General Zod wrote:

francoisfou wrote:

General Zod wrote:I’ve calmed down slightly now.

While France were there for the taking today, I think that if we get a win at the bedpan, it will have been a good autumn.

For what it’s worth, I’ll be cheering for your boys!

Comme je le ferai pour vous!

Banquo wrote:

francoisfou wrote:

Banquo wrote: I think France would say the same about themselves. Their restarts, lineouts and discipline were all a shambles.

So true. I had high hopes that France would continue to show improvement but today was a retrogressive step against a mediocre opposition. Italy next with significant changes before probably facing England in a couple of weeks. Still, I enjoyed listening to Barnes’ French!!

I think France have already stepped up in defensive intensity, but have some other organisational things to sort out. But Edwards will be having a meltdown

Banquo wrote:

francoisfou wrote:

Banquo wrote: I think France would say the same about themselves. Their restarts, lineouts and discipline were all a shambles.

So true. I had high hopes that France would continue to show improvement but today was a retrogressive step against a mediocre opposition. Italy next with significant changes before probably facing England in a couple of weeks. Still, I enjoyed listening to Barnes’ French!!

I think France have already stepped up in defensive intensity, but have some other organisational things to sort out. But Edwards will be having a meltdown

General Zod wrote:I’ve calmed down slightly now.

While France were there for the taking today, I think that if we get a win at the bedpan, it will have been a good autumn.

switchskier wrote:

septic 9 wrote:

Big D wrote:We have two game breaking wingers (one more than the other) and haven't worked out how to get them decent ball.

both defensively shit

In which case you may as well involve them in attack? Or what's the point in selecting then.

Donny osmond wrote:

General Zod wrote:I’ve calmed down slightly now.

While France were there for the taking today, I think that if we get a win at the bedpan, it will have been a good autumn.

I have not.

See when everyone bursts into tears next summer at the lack of Scottish representation on the Lions tour, I'm just going to go right ahead and point them to this game.

Need players to close out a tight game against a big physical opposition? Nah, not us, we're more the 'give it away with stupid penalties' players.

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septic 9 wrote:doubt many felt it would be as close. The couple who put their hands up didn't!

we need to move on in attack for the 6N,not rely on always having a Russell or Hastings, although having either shifts things significantly. Harris may as well not be on the park in attack, he operates as a lightweight back row with poor hands. Backrow balance is so wrong, as it has been for ever. Berghan is shit. Yet despite that, despite that, so close .....7pts

tigran wrote:

Banquo wrote:

francoisfou wrote: So true. I had high hopes that France would continue to show improvement but today was a retrogressive step against a mediocre opposition. Italy next with significant changes before probably facing England in a couple of weeks. Still, I enjoyed listening to Barnes’ French!!

I think France have already stepped up in defensive intensity, but have some other organisational things to sort out. But Edwards will be having a meltdown

Today was a totally new front row, an new half backs pair, not really a new 15, but still, this team is not as gelled than the first choices...so no surprise for the scrappyness...

It's a victory in Scotland, still apreciable

francoisfou wrote:Not very inspiring stuff from either side. A narrow win was what I predicted and I’m happy with that.

Banquo wrote:

tigran wrote:

Banquo wrote: I think France have already stepped up in defensive intensity, but have some other organisational things to sort out. But Edwards will be having a meltdown

Today was a totally new front row, an new half backs pair, not really a new 15, but still, this team is not as gelled than the first choices...so no surprise for the scrappyness...

It's a victory in Scotland, still apreciable

I hear what you say, but what’s the excuse for the shit restarts, poor penalty count, and poor kicking? They dominated the scrums, your new 10 went well...

Mikey Brown wrote:But how can it be such a wild swing from one style to another? Do they now just devote 100% of training time to defence? Has Townsend the attacking mastermind just given up entirely on scoring tries?

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did you ever watch Wales under Gatland? Lots of very good backs, grand slams and 6N wins. Never played attacking rugby and boring as fuck to watch. The whole set up is different, as it was for France today, Edwards defence, attack was basically big guys blasting us, one Gatland style move for the try, and it got to Vakatawa when he butchered a huge overlap

There were patches we did really well picking and supporting runners to suck in French defenders. The expectation of losing the ball after 3 phases is so ingrained in me that I was really pleased with that. We actually created some pretty good ball at times, but everything was so inaccurate whenever we went beyond 10. Weir sits so deep and is completely static when he passes, Johnson and Harris had no hope today regardless of creativity. It's essentially the Laidlaw effect shifted 1 further out.

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yep. Weir is not Russel. He is not Hastings. He is the next best unless we bring back P Horne

Of course building any cohesion in the backs is difficult when you give away endless penalties and can't win any set piece ball. Our red-zone yips are just painfully predictable at this point.

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not so much yips as more daft calls. French back row were 6'3, 6'6 and 6'7. Tallest of ours 6'4, then 6'1 and 5'11 . So we throw to the back. whoever calls the lineouts needs shot

Also will Hogg ever learn to avoid getting stepped when chasing a kick? He loves belting after high kicks but I'm not sure I've ever seen him actually get near his man, let-alone reclaim the ball.

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a lot of blocking ignored today, but kicks from full back are about territory and closing down the return

He's looked all over the shop since becoming captain. No idea if that's coincidence or not, but it just doesn't add up to me.

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not sure about his captaincy, but the lack of an edge elsewhere means he is trying too hard. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:A losing BP would be an amazing result if we can keep it. Definitely one of our worst performances.