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Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:47 pm
by Banquo
Feel sorry for Donaldson but Oz did not deserve to win.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:54 pm
by Oakboy
Where does that leave the value of our series win down under? 'On a par with Italy' is not exactly a peak!

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:02 pm
by Banquo
Oakboy wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:54 pm Where does that leave the value of our series win down under? 'On a par with Italy' is not exactly a peak!
It was the Oz second team pretty much and slightly different to playing at home.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:39 pm
by 16th man
It would be great if Capuozzo was English. Obviously there's now way Eddie picks a guy that size, but just think of the glorious outrage we could have about that.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:36 am
by twitchy
Fra vs SA was brutal.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:57 am
by Banquo
twitchy wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:36 am Fra vs SA was brutal.
It certainly was, and quite the contrast to our AI matches.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 9:40 am
by Scrumhead
Oakboy wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 2:54 pm Where does that leave the value of our series win down under? 'On a par with Italy' is not exactly a peak!
Even if I’m firmly in the ‘anti Eddie’ camp now. This is a BS way of looking at results. You can’t look at games we didn’t play in to create a false narrative. Results this summer and in the Rugby Championship showed that all of the SH sides are capable of beating each other. Australia are way better than a single result.

If you’re going to use this kind of logic, we must have been the world’s number 1 side when we last beat SA (obviously we weren’t). :roll:

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:32 am
by p/d
It’s the beauty of rugby.

Wales woeful against New Zealand beat a side who beat New Zealand

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 11:32 am
by Mellsblue
Banquo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:57 am
twitchy wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:36 am Fra vs SA was brutal.
It certainly was, and quite the contrast to our AI matches.
Spot on.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:21 pm
by twitchy
NZ score after 2 mins. :shock:

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:26 pm
by twitchy
0-12 after 7 mins.

I can't decide if this scotland change kit or the ire one is worse.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:35 pm
by twitchy
12-14 after 14 mins. Fun game.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:43 pm
by Freddo
Ben Earl not being in the squad is criminal.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:54 pm
by twitchy
Freddo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:43 pm Ben Earl not being in the squad is criminal.
I saw the sarries result. He had a great game I'm assuming. I might have to watch the vod after this game.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:16 pm
by fivepointer
Earl was fantastic. Daly very good too.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:22 pm
by p/d
It was a great game.
But the relentless screaming at the ref. Just not on

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:39 pm
by 16th man
Got to say, whilst the AB back row is very impressive carrying the ball, Scotland are chopping them to bits at the breakdown.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:56 pm
by Mr Mwenda
twitchy wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:26 pm 0-12 after 7 mins.

I can't decide if this scotland change kit or the ire one is worse.
The Ireland one. The Scots blue and yellow numbers push theirs into unintelligible artistic territory.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 4:39 pm
by twitchy
Great effort from the scots in the end.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:11 pm
by francoisfou
p/d wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:22 pm It was a great game.
But the relentless screaming at the ref. Just not on
Is this odious screaming, for a turnover or being awarded a penalty, just a Saracens thing, or are other clubs doing it too?
On the few occasions I've watched Saracens, Earl seems to be the worst culprit and Itoje not far behind.
This will surely filter down to Sunday morning mini rugby and in turn it'll doubtlessly persuade many ageing rugby enthusiasts, like me, to turn away from the game.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:44 pm
by fivepointer
francoisfou wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:11 pm
p/d wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:22 pm It was a great game.
But the relentless screaming at the ref. Just not on
Is this odious screaming, for a turnover or being awarded a penalty, just a Saracens thing, or are other clubs doing it too?
On the few occasions I've watched Saracens, Earl seems to be the worst culprit and Itoje not far behind.
This will surely filter down to Sunday morning mini rugby and in turn it'll doubtlessly persuade many ageing rugby enthusiasts, like me, to turn away from the game.
Think its becoming more commonplace. The ref told Saracens to shut up eventually. Barnes was copping a lot of chat in last nights game.
Simple remedy: refs warn that the next appeal will result in a penalty. Next one a yellow card. Might be the only way to get the players to belt up.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:50 pm
by Scrumhead
Freddo wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:43 pm Ben Earl not being in the squad is criminal.
It is, but personally I still wouldn’t put him ahead of Curry or Willis.

I’d have those two starting with Earl as the impact from the bench.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:53 pm
by p/d
fivepointer wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:44 pm
francoisfou wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:11 pm
p/d wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:22 pm It was a great game.
But the relentless screaming at the ref. Just not on
Is this odious screaming, for a turnover or being awarded a penalty, just a Saracens thing, or are other clubs doing it too?
On the few occasions I've watched Saracens, Earl seems to be the worst culprit and Itoje not far behind.
This will surely filter down to Sunday morning mini rugby and in turn it'll doubtlessly persuade many ageing rugby enthusiasts, like me, to turn away from the game.
Think its becoming more commonplace. The ref told Saracens to shut up eventually. Barnes was copping a lot of chat in last nights game.
Simple remedy: refs warn that the next appeal will result in a penalty. Next one a yellow card. Might be the only way to get the players to belt up.
Or just keep marching them back 10 until it results in a penalty try, then the yellow card. Earl as captain was vocal today, but plenty more voices could be heard. Like you say Barnes was copping it last night.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:00 pm
by Mr Mwenda
p/d wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:53 pm
fivepointer wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:44 pm
francoisfou wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:11 pm
Is this odious screaming, for a turnover or being awarded a penalty, just a Saracens thing, or are other clubs doing it too?
On the few occasions I've watched Saracens, Earl seems to be the worst culprit and Itoje not far behind.
This will surely filter down to Sunday morning mini rugby and in turn it'll doubtlessly persuade many ageing rugby enthusiasts, like me, to turn away from the game.
Think its becoming more commonplace. The ref told Saracens to shut up eventually. Barnes was copping a lot of chat in last nights game.
Simple remedy: refs warn that the next appeal will result in a penalty. Next one a yellow card. Might be the only way to get the players to belt up.
Or just keep marching them back 10 until it results in a penalty try, then the yellow card. Earl as captain was vocal today, but plenty more voices could be heard. Like you say Barnes was copping it last night.
World rugby and the unions really need to come out in support of the refs. When you these shitty YouTube channels dedicated to showing alleged poor refereeing and the outcries after e.g. Foley's stupidity in the aus v nz game it gets harder for them to do their job and enforce their authority.

Re: Autumn International Squad

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:14 pm
by Puja
Notable in the Scotland match how vulnerable New Zealand looked to a jackalling specialist and also how Scotland somehow managed to survive their lineouts despite only playing two locks at any given time.

Puja