. But given how good England were in previous weeks, .
Needle skip, spit take, sorry, what now? moment here.
Did I miss a couple of games or is he genuinely still pushing a line that the Chile game meant something?
Since he 'moved upstairs', he's been a lot more...nice...toward coaches of all sports teams. Really does diminish the Granuaid's sports coverage when their best writer has become the sports equivalent of a corporate shill.
Banquo Itoje’s being (imo fairly) questioned because compared to the zenith he reached on his first few seasons he’s been bang average (at best) - like Billy and Farrell successive England coaches have been too reluctant to drop him when needed and his place in the starting XV being complacently taken as a given. I’d honestly swap him in that 4 shirt for Lawes at the moment which would give space for 3 out and out back rows not what used to be called in the old days a utility forward.
Despite Lawes not having played lock for what, 3 years or so. Try replacing Itoje's restart work, his excellence at 2,4,6 as a jumper, his phenomenal work rate at rucks both sides of the ball. I don't think you can be watching him very closely, frankly- his work is literally unseen to you; he's the only bit of glue in an inconsistent pack.
In all the time I’ve been posting here I’ve never felt that @jngf is watching anyone closely TBH. A good deal of his opinions are only held by him which kind of tells it’s own story …
For somebody so devoted to pontificating about facts, data etc. that’s a very subjective comment Scrummy
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:29 pm
by Scrumhead
Which bit? The second sentence is a fact isn’t it?
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:23 pm
by Mellsblue
FKAS wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 10:28 pm
LBB will likely make way for Villiere for the quarters.
He did not.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:39 pm
by Mikey Brown
Oh what you want someone fast on the wing? Don’t they know how good Villiere is at the breakdown?
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:52 pm
by FKAS
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:39 pm
Oh what you want someone fast on the wing? Don’t they know how good Villiere is at the breakdown?
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 10:39 pm
Oh what you want someone fast on the wing? Don’t they know how good Villiere is at the breakdown?
Villiere isn't exactly slow.
Don’t mind me, I just hate rugby now apparently.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:22 am
by Mikey Brown
Oh no. He said the Eddie thing. Ford hasn't been dropped to the bench, he's "changed his role".
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:39 am
by morepork
The Day Today with Steve Borthwick. This is genius satire.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:21 am
by Mellsblue
Ffs.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:36 am
by Banquo
what he said. What absolute shyte.
Slightly Bothered he looks very stressed and So bricking it.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:40 am
by Danno
Fucking hell. I've interviewed discarded takeaway boxes with more insight and charisma than those two
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:54 am
by p/d
I have just read that Underhill was brought in solely to replicate Botia in training
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:57 am
by Mellsblue
Any chance we could find someone replicate him in a match.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:03 am
by p/d
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:57 am
Any chance we could find someone replicate him in a match.
You would think wouldn't you.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:07 am
by p/d
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:22 am
Oh no. He said the Eddie thing. Ford hasn't been dropped to the bench, he's "changed his role".
That is priceless!!!!! .............. and yet I died a little inside.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:33 am
by jngf
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:22 am
Oh no. He said the Eddie thing. Ford hasn't been dropped to the bench, he's "changed his role".
“His ability to perform so well at 10 or 12” - in the context of manning the till at Aldi one assumes Steve?
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:58 am
by fivepointer
I dont expect an all singling all dancing performance at these things. I'm sure the coaches and players find them a chore but jeez can they try and inject just a little life into proceedings?
Change of role. For crying out loud.....
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:14 am
by Mikey Brown
I know, right.
I’m not sure if Borthwick considers himself a great actor, but this decision to present themselves as relentlessly jovial and positive about the opportunities ahead just doesn’t land at all. It really slipped in that moment.
At least when they released that video of Eddie announcing the team to finish the game you had the hilarious element of them all looking around trying to hide puzzled expressions and say “okay, sure but am I fucking starting or am I on the bench?”
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:32 am
by Mellsblue
Did we expect anything different in front of the press. We can all remember his drivel as captain. What I didn’t expect was such a poorly drilled team and such poor off-field planning.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:19 pm
by jngf
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:32 am
Did we expect anything different in front of the press. We can all remember his drivel as captain. What I didn’t expect was such a poorly drilled team and such poor off-field planning.
Sarah Brown used to give Aleicester Brexit Campbell a run for his money in the spin stakes
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:32 am
Did we expect anything different in front of the press. We can all remember his drivel as captain. What I didn’t expect was such a poorly drilled team and such poor off-field planning.
Sarah Brown used to give Aleicester Brexit Campbell a run for his money in the spin stakes
Fascinating.
Re: England vs Samoa - Sat 4.45pm
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 1:34 pm
by p/d
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:32 am
Did we expect anything different in front of the press. We can all remember his drivel as captain. What I didn’t expect was such a poorly drilled team and such poor off-field planning.
I was just pleased to hear just how many exceptional players we have who haven’t made the team.
Not forgetting how excited the anointed all are
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sat Oct 14, 2023 11:32 am
Did we expect anything different in front of the press. We can all remember his drivel as captain. What I didn’t expect was such a poorly drilled team and such poor off-field planning.
I was just pleased to hear just how many exceptional players we have who haven’t made the team.
Not forgetting how excited the anointed all are
…but forgetting how unexcited the disappointed all are.
