Re: The Glasgow Carpet Burns and Cary Grant Appreciation Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2022 9:50 am
Genuinely don't know if he is a good option or not. More interesting than an interim to see them through this season I suppose.
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reality is with the RWC approaching options are few to close to zero. We'll see how he goes, I'd just be relieved and delighted its not Dean RichardsBig D wrote:How very uninspiring that the SRU are left having to buy Franco Smith out of his deal.Cameo wrote:Franco Smith (South African former Italy coach) is apparently at the top of the list now.
any interim (pending top coaches becoming willing to consider a move) would be until after the RWC. So not just the coming season but the following pre season, recruitment for following season and first couple of months of the following season. At least.Cameo wrote:Genuinely don't know if he is a good option or not. More interesting than an interim to see them through this season I suppose.
Does 2 years make sense at this point?Glasgow Warriors have appointed Franco Smith as the club’s new Head Coach on an initial two-year contract.
Smith, 50, joins from the Italian Rugby Federation where he has served as Head of High Performance since 2021, and previously as the men’s national Head Coach from 2020.
He will arrive at Scotstoun at the end of August, prior to the club’s two pre-season fixtures, after a short notice period. In the coming weeks he will be in close contact with his assistant coaches – Nigel Carolan, Peter Murchie, Alasdair Dickinson, and Pete Horne.
Welcoming his appointment, Smith, said: “I have followed Glasgow for a long time, since coaching at Benetton when they joined the PRO12 in 2010, and the way they play has always appealed to me because their style is embraced by the fans.
“In coaching I always have these objectives: to play a winning brand of rugby; to have a style that is good to watch and that the fans can associate with – it is the Warrior Nation’s team, and our responsibility through the coaches and players is to represent them.
“There are also opportunities at Glasgow to contribute to the pathway for up-and-coming players, making sure we are developing creative, fit, and knowledgeable rugby players from a young age that we will bring all the way through to Scotland.
“I am looking forward to joining the club and getting to know the coaching staff and players as we begin working together.”
Smith, a former Springbok, made a try scoring debut against Scotland at Murrayfield and won nine caps for his country between 1996 and 1999, and brings with him a wealth of knowledge both as a professional player and coach, with experience working with backs, forwards, and on set piece.
During his playing career he played for Free State Cheetahs, Griquas, Blue Bulls, and The Pumas in South Africa, as well as Newport, Bologna, and Benetton Treviso in Europe.
Smith began coaching soon after retiring, first as backs coach for Free State Cheetahs, before returning to Italy in 2007 as Head Coach of Benetton. In Treviso, he won two National Championship of Excellence titles, prior to the club joining the PRO12.
He returned to Cheetahs in 2014 and led them to two Currie Cup titles in 2016 and 2019, and also spent time as an assistant coach with South Africa during 2017 and 2018.
As Italy men’s national Head Coach, he was responsible for capping a wealth of talent, including the current men’s national team captain Michele Lamaro, and the talented playmaker Paolo Garbisi.
Others that won their first international caps under Smith include Juan Ignacio Brex (centre), Monty Ioane (wing), and Niccolo Cannone (lock) all of whom were involved in Italy’s recent 22-12 victory over Wales in the 2022 GUINNESS Six Nations.
Glasgow Warriors Managing Director, Alastair Kellock, said: “We are delighted to be signing a Head Coach with Franco’s club and international experience to lead our squad in the coming seasons.
“After an extensive search it was Franco’s depth of knowledge in the game and his experiences at professional club and international levels that stood out. Thank you to the Italian Rugby Federation for their willingness to make this appointment possible.
“I know Franco will bring an exciting identity to our game based on high tempo and hard work, and he will bring the best out of the talented group of players we have at Scotstoun. Franco is also known for developing players from a young age, and with five recent graduates from the FOSROC Academy and a number close behind growing these players remains a key focus for the club.
Scottish Rugby CEO, Mark Dodson, added: “I would like to join Al in welcoming Franco to Scotland and Glasgow Warriors.
“Throughout our recruitment process Franco stood out as a strong technical coach who wants to play positive rugby, which fits with the DNA of Glasgow Warriors and how we want to develop our squad, especially the exciting group of younger players, at Scotstoun.
“Across the game people we consulted spoke very highly of Franco as a coach and a person and we look forward to him taking Glasgow Warriors forward in the coming seasons.”
Mikey Brown wrote:Confirmed now with a 2 year contract.
Does 2 years make sense at this point?Glasgow Warriors have appointed Franco Smith as the club’s new Head Coach on an initial two-year contract.
Smith, 50, joins from the Italian Rugby Federation where he has served as Head of High Performance since 2021, and previously as the men’s national Head Coach from 2020.
He will arrive at Scotstoun at the end of August, prior to the club’s two pre-season fixtures, after a short notice period. In the coming weeks he will be in close contact with his assistant coaches – Nigel Carolan, Peter Murchie, Alasdair Dickinson, and Pete Horne.
Welcoming his appointment, Smith, said: “I have followed Glasgow for a long time, since coaching at Benetton when they joined the PRO12 in 2010, and the way they play has always appealed to me because their style is embraced by the fans.
“In coaching I always have these objectives: to play a winning brand of rugby; to have a style that is good to watch and that the fans can associate with – it is the Warrior Nation’s team, and our responsibility through the coaches and players is to represent them.
“There are also opportunities at Glasgow to contribute to the pathway for up-and-coming players, making sure we are developing creative, fit, and knowledgeable rugby players from a young age that we will bring all the way through to Scotland.
“I am looking forward to joining the club and getting to know the coaching staff and players as we begin working together.”
Smith, a former Springbok, made a try scoring debut against Scotland at Murrayfield and won nine caps for his country between 1996 and 1999, and brings with him a wealth of knowledge both as a professional player and coach, with experience working with backs, forwards, and on set piece.
During his playing career he played for Free State Cheetahs, Griquas, Blue Bulls, and The Pumas in South Africa, as well as Newport, Bologna, and Benetton Treviso in Europe.
Smith began coaching soon after retiring, first as backs coach for Free State Cheetahs, before returning to Italy in 2007 as Head Coach of Benetton. In Treviso, he won two National Championship of Excellence titles, prior to the club joining the PRO12.
He returned to Cheetahs in 2014 and led them to two Currie Cup titles in 2016 and 2019, and also spent time as an assistant coach with South Africa during 2017 and 2018.
As Italy men’s national Head Coach, he was responsible for capping a wealth of talent, including the current men’s national team captain Michele Lamaro, and the talented playmaker Paolo Garbisi.
Others that won their first international caps under Smith include Juan Ignacio Brex (centre), Monty Ioane (wing), and Niccolo Cannone (lock) all of whom were involved in Italy’s recent 22-12 victory over Wales in the 2022 GUINNESS Six Nations.
Glasgow Warriors Managing Director, Alastair Kellock, said: “We are delighted to be signing a Head Coach with Franco’s club and international experience to lead our squad in the coming seasons.
“After an extensive search it was Franco’s depth of knowledge in the game and his experiences at professional club and international levels that stood out. Thank you to the Italian Rugby Federation for their willingness to make this appointment possible.
“I know Franco will bring an exciting identity to our game based on high tempo and hard work, and he will bring the best out of the talented group of players we have at Scotstoun. Franco is also known for developing players from a young age, and with five recent graduates from the FOSROC Academy and a number close behind growing these players remains a key focus for the club.
Scottish Rugby CEO, Mark Dodson, added: “I would like to join Al in welcoming Franco to Scotland and Glasgow Warriors.
“Throughout our recruitment process Franco stood out as a strong technical coach who wants to play positive rugby, which fits with the DNA of Glasgow Warriors and how we want to develop our squad, especially the exciting group of younger players, at Scotstoun.
“Across the game people we consulted spoke very highly of Franco as a coach and a person and we look forward to him taking Glasgow Warriors forward in the coming seasons.”
there was (and still is a bit) a long period of importing Boks who eventually became competitive for Italy, eg Nel, Schoeman, Duhan VDM, CDP etcswitchskier wrote:I don't remember him improving Italy in anyway or developing a clear style of play or game plan. Wasn't his the era of really importing large but average South Africans to try make them competitive? But he gets the benefit of the doubt for now.
in a sense anytime you sack a coach a year early you don't have a plan. I'd suggest that the plan was dependent on how his his first 2 seasons had gone - went really well and he stays, new deal lined up for the end of his 3rd season. Not gone so well and head hinting for new coach after his 3 seasons are up - to come in immediately after the RWCswitchskier wrote: What I think is more concerning is the seeming lack of a plan. I get moving on from Wilson, but they seemingly did so without a clear idea what they were looking for in the next coach. It's not clear to me what about Smith that makes him the outstanding candidate, and how that meshes with Glasgow the club.
be good if you explained the bit I've bolded.oldprussians wrote:So I am back for a short time only
What I will say is this.
Glasgow have bought a pup with Franco Smith, and also paid for the privilege
He was responsible for the worst SA attack under Coetzee SA have had for a long time and Italy beat them
With a better squad than Crowley has now he had far worse results
Franco Smith was sacked and Innocenti couldn't get rid of him due to stitched up contracts so created role for him.
SA fans wet themselves laughing that he was so bad and got promoted.
What were the owners of Glasgow thinking???
if I am wrong and you become awesome I will really eat my hat, and a ton load of humble pie.
But I am really baffled in a nice way. Not trying to troll. I am just baffled.
Are you happy?
Well Minozzi was fitStill septic wrote:be good if you explained the bit I've bolded.oldprussians wrote:So I am back for a short time only
What I will say is this.
Glasgow have bought a pup with Franco Smith, and also paid for the privilege
He was responsible for the worst SA attack under Coetzee SA have had for a long time and Italy beat them
With a better squad than Crowley has now he had far worse results
Franco Smith was sacked and Innocenti couldn't get rid of him due to stitched up contracts so created role for him.
SA fans wet themselves laughing that he was so bad and got promoted.
What were the owners of Glasgow thinking???
if I am wrong and you become awesome I will really eat my hat, and a ton load of humble pie.
But I am really baffled in a nice way. Not trying to troll. I am just baffled.
Are you happy?
Then remember that Smith was only temp head coach for Italy, stepped into the role O'Shea was sacked from as DoR
If the rest of your post is as accurate.............
think so many Boks are have a very strong Christian faith, hence so many happy in Belfast for example. Its a strange and frankly rather sick way to attack someone on a rugby forumoldprussians wrote:Well Minozzi was fitStill septic wrote:be good if you explained the bit I've bolded.oldprussians wrote:So I am back for a short time only
What I will say is this.
Glasgow have bought a pup with Franco Smith, and also paid for the privilege
He was responsible for the worst SA attack under Coetzee SA have had for a long time and Italy beat them
With a better squad than Crowley has now he had far worse results
Franco Smith was sacked and Innocenti couldn't get rid of him due to stitched up contracts so created role for him.
SA fans wet themselves laughing that he was so bad and got promoted.
What were the owners of Glasgow thinking???
if I am wrong and you become awesome I will really eat my hat, and a ton load of humble pie.
But I am really baffled in a nice way. Not trying to troll. I am just baffled.
Are you happy?
Then remember that Smith was only temp head coach for Italy, stepped into the role O'Shea was sacked from as DoR
If the rest of your post is as accurate.............
Meyer was fit
Polledri was fit
Look at the for ad against for the equal amount of seasons
Look at the defensive analysis done by any experts
Look at how Crowley did for the majority of the game vs the All Blacks
It is night and day.
I should be happy knowing you are going to get pasted as a competitor being an Italian fan. But I can't it just seems unsporting and not in the rugby spirit.
I think he is a born again Christian, honest but utterly naïve.
Did you see how he behaved when Italy lost.
When he came in Goosen was defence coach whom I didn't rate highly but at least he had been doing it under Crowley.
Troncon was hired to be attack and 3/4 coach. Smith swapped them around and we saw what happened.
Look at squidge rugby analysis.
You really think that he will reverse the scores Leinster put on you, you must be joking.
I mean it I am sorry I wouldn't wish him on any URC team.
Didn't mean it as an attack just meant it as description of his character not that it impinge on his coaching ability, nor that I am anti being religiousseptic 9 wrote:think so many Boks are have a very strong Christian faith, hence so many happy in Belfast for example. Its a strange and frankly rather sick way to attack someone on a rugby forumoldprussians wrote:Well Minozzi was fitStill septic wrote:
be good if you explained the bit I've bolded.
Then remember that Smith was only temp head coach for Italy, stepped into the role O'Shea was sacked from as DoR
If the rest of your post is as accurate.............
Meyer was fit
Polledri was fit
Look at the for ad against for the equal amount of seasons
Look at the defensive analysis done by any experts
Look at how Crowley did for the majority of the game vs the All Blacks
It is night and day.
I should be happy knowing you are going to get pasted as a competitor being an Italian fan. But I can't it just seems unsporting and not in the rugby spirit.
I think he is a born again Christian, honest but utterly naïve.
Did you see how he behaved when Italy lost.
When he came in Goosen was defence coach whom I didn't rate highly but at least he had been doing it under Crowley.
Troncon was hired to be attack and 3/4 coach. Smith swapped them around and we saw what happened.
Look at squidge rugby analysis.
You really think that he will reverse the scores Leinster put on you, you must be joking.
I mean it I am sorry I wouldn't wish him on any URC team.
I've no idea how he'll go at Glasgow, we will find that out soon enough
As to other stuff post post
Minnozzi have been mainly injured for a few seasons. Polledri has just missed 2 seasons with injury.
Crowley for Italy picked the players Smith capped year earlier. A year older and more experienced. He won a game against wales, great and deserved result, then lost to Georgia for the first time ever
Being selective with "facts" to suit your clear personal agenda and dislike of Smith is easily picked out.
Me, I'll wait and see
On the bench for the season opener todayCameo wrote:That's cool. Seemed to stall a bit this year. Hope he gets some gametime.Mikey Brown wrote:Interesting move.
Seems to have been pulled. Another 9 came off the bench. I presume an injury in the warm up or something but that's guesswork.Cameo wrote:On the bench for the season opener todayCameo wrote:That's cool. Seemed to stall a bit this year. Hope he gets some gametime.Mikey Brown wrote:Interesting move.
He's a decent and underrated player, although hampered a touch by only being 3ft tall and 5st soaking wet. Surprised Newcastle let him go, tbh.Still septic wrote:week or so back Glasgow signed Joel Hodgson on a short term contract. A stand off released by Newcastle. Why we all wondered. Seems Ross Thomson has had back surgery and will miss start of season. Weir also thought to be injured (some might say won't be missed).
I've liked what I've seen of Hodgson, does like to play running rugby