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Stom wrote:

Digby wrote:

Stom wrote:
Robshaw may not get into the NZ team nor the SA team now they've discovered Kolisi, but he's a damn good player. He has excellent reading of the game, he invaiably makes his tackles, and lots of them, and he rarely breaks down.

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May not? It's not just those two either, it's quite likely the only 6N team who'd start him is England. he's hardly a bad player, and he puts in some exceptional efforts but for me he does lack some skills, he can't maintain a huge workrate to overcome that and he lacks pace to cover any mistakes

May not... but. It's a phrase.

You really think Scotland, Wales, Italy and France would pass him up? And I think he'd have a good chance with Ireland, too. He's a damn good player. Just because he doesn't fit your model of Kvesic, doesn't mean he's not a classy operator.

But he does maintain a huge workrate. A superman workrate, tbh. His positioning in defense is one of the best, plus he's possibly the best defensive organiser around right now. His tackle technique is superb, he's not a slouch (but, of course not the best) at the breakdown, he recycles possession very well and understands the tactical flow of a game and when to slow down and when to speed up.

Just because he's not an explosive carrier nor particularly fast doesn't make him an "OK" player. He's a lot better than that.

Scrumhead wrote:

Stom wrote:Not to say we shouldn't be looking at upgrades, we absolutely should. There just aren't any. Yet. Willis could come back perfect for the job. If Underhill keeps improving in attack, he could do so. Shields could take over. Then there is Clifford (if ever fit), Mercer at 6 or one of the young Prem backrows currently getting gametime.

But none of them have been anywhere near Robshaw's standards recently, either due to class, form or injury.

Thanks Stom. +1 on both of your last posts. Saved me the effort.

Digby wrote:

Scrumhead wrote:

Stom wrote:Not to say we shouldn't be looking at upgrades, we absolutely should. There just aren't any. Yet. Willis could come back perfect for the job. If Underhill keeps improving in attack, he could do so. Shields could take over. Then there is Clifford (if ever fit), Mercer at 6 or one of the young Prem backrows currently getting gametime.

But none of them have been anywhere near Robshaw's standards recently, either due to class, form or injury.

Thanks Stom. +1 on both of your last posts. Saved me the effort.

Typically England are somewhat of a turgid side to watch and Robshaw is part of that and not the one player raging against the dying of the light

Mellsblue wrote:Ffs. Itoje, Kruis and Lawes is a quality trio but Launch is a class act.
Was the injury sustained with England?

Oakboy wrote:Am I the only one that doesn't rate Kruis?

Oakboy wrote:Based on the European results the Irish team appears to be approaching the RWC with top class players fit and in form. With settled selection and a well-practised playing style they are going to take some stopping. How many of our players (in current form and fitness) would even get in their squad? Their complementary provincial/international set-up is gelling well.

Timbo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:Based on the European results the Irish team appears to be approaching the RWC with top class players fit and in form. With settled selection and a well-practised playing style they are going to take some stopping. How many of our players (in current form and fitness) would even get in their squad? Their complementary provincial/international set-up is gelling well.

Lots of England players would get in the Irish squad, they certainly don’t have more talented players than us. See players like Addison and Haley going over there and making an impression- they’ll probably both pick up Ireland caps this Autumn.

But they have a high performance system which is currently working better than ours in many aspects.

Oakboy wrote:

Timbo wrote:

Oakboy wrote:Based on the European results the Irish team appears to be approaching the RWC with top class players fit and in form. With settled selection and a well-practised playing style they are going to take some stopping. How many of our players (in current form and fitness) would even get in their squad? Their complementary provincial/international set-up is gelling well.

Lots of England players would get in the Irish squad, they certainly don’t have more talented players than us. See players like Addison and Haley going over there and making an impression- they’ll probably both pick up Ireland caps this Autumn.

But they have a high performance system which is currently working better than ours in many aspects.

I did say 'current form and fitness'. Maybe, the Saracens players will impress this afternoon. So far more of our players have disappointed than shone against Irish opposition I'd suggest.