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Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 2:10 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Hilarious challenge to recognising Palestine from Israel-supporting lords. One slight problem with their argument - we aren't signatories to the Montevideo Convention - no one outside the Americas is.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/ ... tional-law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montevideo_Convention
On this topic, since the USA
is a signatory, perhaps they should refamiliarize themselves with article 11, which says:
The contracting states definitely establish the rule of their conduct the precise obligation not to recognize territorial acquisitions or advantages that have been obtained by force whether this consists in the employment of arms, in threatening diplomatic representations, or in any other effective coercive measure
. . . and consider how this might apply to Palestine, and Russian-occupied Ukraine. And for the future, Greenland.
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 8:24 am
by paddy no 11
Amazing footage from a pro palestine March in sydney
Hopefully it gets some coverage, and governments do what they're citizens actually want I.e not let kids starve
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 9:57 pm
by Puja
I am astounded at the media coverage of this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwyxv9nv2vo
Yes, it's horrible seeing a human being in an emaciated and starved state. But he's being held in Gaza, which had been bombed, blockaded, and deliberately starved - did people expect that he was somehow going to be eating better than the rest of the populace?
I feel like the Western media value Israeli lives and Palestinian lives very differently. No-one is defending Hamas and their awful murders and hostage taking, but an Israeli being kidnapped, or starved or killed is an outrage, whereas the Palestinians arrested without charge when the Israeli security services want to put pressure on Hamas, or the Gazans starving, or the people in the West Bank murdered in "security incidents where warning shots were fired" are a statistic.
Puja
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2025 10:14 pm
by Danno
Yeah that was a brutal read. Written in a vacuum with no appreciation of the overall context of what is happening out there.
I'd already lost virtually all faith in the Beeb since 2015 but their reporting on Gaza has been particularly disgusting under some masquerade of impartiality
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 9:38 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote: ↑Sun Aug 03, 2025 9:57 pm
I am astounded at the media coverage of this:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpwyxv9nv2vo
Yes, it's horrible seeing a human being in an emaciated and starved state. But he's being held in Gaza, which had been bombed, blockaded, and deliberately starved - did people expect that he was somehow going to be eating better than the rest of the populace?
I feel like the Western media value Israeli lives and Palestinian lives very differently. No-one is defending Hamas and their awful murders and hostage taking, but an Israeli being kidnapped, or starved or killed is an outrage, whereas the Palestinians arrested without charge when the Israeli security services want to put pressure on Hamas, or the Gazans starving, or the people in the West Bank murdered in "security incidents where warning shots were fired" are a statistic.
Puja
Starving people is an awful crime, but I'm thinking starving 2 million people is ... 2 million times worse than starving one person, and the coverage should reflect this.
The article ends with :
Israel launched its offensive in Gaza in response to the Hamas-led attack on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed.
The Hamas-run health authorities say 60,430 people have been killed as a result of the Israeli military campaign.
So still the BBC are accepting the Israeli numbers as fact (with their track record of lies) whereas the Palestinian numbers are just hearsay. Despite studies which suggest that the 60k figure is a gross underestimate.
Re: gaza conflict
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 5:26 pm
by morepork
Every. Fucking. Day.