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Interesting how modern political theory is so traditional.Zhivago wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics
The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.
Scary book. Looks like job done with the UK though. Or will be when Truss and the rest of those idiots rip up their own treaty and cause a trade war with the EU.Sandydragon wrote:Interesting how modern political theory is so traditional.Zhivago wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics
The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.
But the bit of isolating Britain from Europe is an interesting one. Had sad that so many in this country helped that objective to be realised.
Brexit has destroyed the Tory party and left it firmly under the control of UKIP.Son of Mathonwy wrote:Scary book. Looks like job done with the UK though. Or will be when Truss and the rest of those idiots rip up their own treaty and cause a trade war with the EU.Sandydragon wrote:Interesting how modern political theory is so traditional.Zhivago wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundatio ... eopolitics
The book behind Russia's neo-fascism.
But the bit of isolating Britain from Europe is an interesting one. Had sad that so many in this country helped that objective to be realised.
Moral too.Sandydragon wrote:There’s some clear morale issues in the Russian army at the moment.
I assume those yellow jackets want petrol prices low.Mellsblue wrote:Wtf is Macron playing at?!?! Saying that Ukraine must give up territory to avoid humiliating Putin, and that EU membership will take years (it will but there’s no need to so blatantly announce it). Has he spent so long ‘negotiating’ whether Putin that he’s developed Stockholm Syndrome!?!
Nothing like encouraging a sick man with a god complex who has his finger on a nuclear trigger.Zhivago wrote:I assume those yellow jackets want petrol prices low.Mellsblue wrote:Wtf is Macron playing at?!?! Saying that Ukraine must give up territory to avoid humiliating Putin, and that EU membership will take years (it will but there’s no need to so blatantly announce it). Has he spent so long ‘negotiating’ whether Putin that he’s developed Stockholm Syndrome!?!
https://ria.ru/20220515/ukraina-1788680071.htmlSon of Mathonwy wrote:To add to his crimes, that bastard Putin lost us Eurovision last night.
Is there a translation of that?Zhivago wrote:https://ria.ru/20220515/ukraina-1788680071.htmlSon of Mathonwy wrote:To add to his crimes, that bastard Putin lost us Eurovision last night.
The world they live in is so divorced from reality
Just use Chrome to translate and you'll see their worldSon of Mathonwy wrote:Is there a translation of that?Zhivago wrote:https://ria.ru/20220515/ukraina-1788680071.htmlSon of Mathonwy wrote:To add to his crimes, that bastard Putin lost us Eurovision last night.
The world they live in is so divorced from reality
Whatever. Most Brits couldn't give a toss about Eurovision, but many I have spoken to recognise that showing solidarity with Ukraine was more important than the actual result. But as you say, its a parallel universe.Zhivago wrote:Just use Chrome to translate and you'll see their worldSon of Mathonwy wrote:Is there a translation of that?Zhivago wrote:
https://ria.ru/20220515/ukraina-1788680071.html
The world they live in is so divorced from reality
"British were angered by Ukraine's victory at Eurovision"
I mean, in fairness, it is quoting the Daily Heil's comment section, so they are in the same parallel universe there.Sandydragon wrote:Whatever. Most Brits couldn't give a toss about Eurovision, but many I have spoken to recognise that showing solidarity with Ukraine was more important than the actual result. But as you say, its a parallel universe.Zhivago wrote:Just use Chrome to translate and you'll see their worldSon of Mathonwy wrote: Is there a translation of that?
"British were angered by Ukraine's victory at Eurovision"
You make a good point there.Puja wrote:I mean, in fairness, it is quoting the Daily Heil's comment section, so they are in the same parallel universe there.Sandydragon wrote:Whatever. Most Brits couldn't give a toss about Eurovision, but many I have spoken to recognise that showing solidarity with Ukraine was more important than the actual result. But as you say, its a parallel universe.Zhivago wrote:
Just use Chrome to translate and you'll see their world
"British were angered by Ukraine's victory at Eurovision"
Puja
They are not pragmatists. The Dutch are pragmatists, and Russia is not like that at all. Pragmatists don't cut up Chanel bags to show their patriotism.J Dory wrote:The Russian professor in this podcast doesn't buy into the Russian public is brainwashed angle. Rather he says Russians are pragmatists and supporting Putin is in their best interest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0c6968n
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundat ... eopoliticsIn Foundations of Geopolitics, Dugin calls for the United States and Atlanticism to lose their influence in Eurasia, and for Russia to rebuild its influence through annexations and alliances. The book declares that "the battle for the world rule of Russians" has not ended and Russia remains "the staging area of a new anti-bourgeois, anti-American revolution". The Eurasian Empire will be constructed "on the fundamental principle of the common enemy: the rejection of Atlanticism, strategic control of the U.S., and the refusal to allow liberal values to dominate us."
Military operations play relatively little role. The textbook advocates a sophisticated program of subversion, destabilization, and disinformation spearheaded by the Russian special services. The operations should be assisted by a tough, hard-headed utilization of Russia's gas, oil, and natural resources to bully and pressure other countries. The book states that "the maximum task [of the future] is the 'Finlandization' of all of Europe".
In Europe:
Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad Oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term "Moscow–Berlin axis".
France should be encouraged to form a bloc with Germany, as they both have a "firm anti-Atlanticist tradition".
The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe.
Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be "donated to Murmansk Oblast".
Estonia should be given to Germany's sphere of influence.
Latvia and Lithuania should be given a "special status" in the Eurasian–Russian sphere, although he later writes that they should be integrated into Russia.
Belarus and Moldova are to become part of Russia.
Poland should be granted a "special status" in the Eurasian sphere.
Romania, North Macedonia, Serbia, "Serbian Bosnia" and Greece – "Orthodox collectivist East" – will unite with "Moscow the Third Rome" and reject the "rational-individualistic West".
Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible.
In the Middle East and Central Asia:
The book stresses the "continental Russian–Islamic alliance" which lies "at the foundation of anti-Atlanticist strategy". The alliance is based on the "traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilization".
Iran is a key ally. The book uses the term "Moscow–Tehran axis".
Armenia has a special role: It will serve as a "strategic base," and it is necessary to create "the [subsidiary] axis Moscow-Yerevan-Teheran". Armenians "are an Aryan people ... [like] the Iranians and the Kurds".
Azerbaijan could be "split up" or given to Iran.
Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable.
Russia needs to create "geopolitical shocks" within Turkey. These can be achieved by employing Kurds, Armenians and other minorities.
The book regards the Caucasus as a Russian territory, including "the eastern and northern shores of the Caspian (the territories of Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan)" and Central Asia (mentioning Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan).
In East and Southeast Asia:
China, which represents a danger to Russia, "must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled". Dugin suggests that Russia start by taking Tibet–Xinjiang–Inner Mongolia–Manchuria as a security belt. Russia should offer China help "in a southern direction – Indochina (except Vietnam), the Philippines, Indonesia, Australia" as geopolitical compensation.
Russia should manipulate Japanese politics by offering the Kuril Islands to Japan and provoking anti-Americanism.
Mongolia should be absorbed into Eurasia-Russia.
The book emphasizes that Russia must spread anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S."
In the United States:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
The Eurasian Project could be expanded to South and Central America.
