morepork wrote:OK. So this is really fucking ugly now, and it will dominate the upcoming election as it is fanned into flames by social media.
I know your hate of social media is all consuming, but this would be a mess regardless.
There existed a physical rally for the President of the United States, attended by thousands, in which the crowd bayed to "Send Her Home," about a US citizen elected politician poc, who has lived there since she was 2.
I know we all know that happened, but I just needed to write it out to see it in black and white. That is utterly incredible (in the sense of being incredulous).
Puja
Yes, that actually happened. You can scoff at my social media cynicism if you like, but that platform is responsible for conspiracy theories taking root regarding the elected official in question, which include anti-semitism, proactive support for terrorist groups, and marrying her brother to obtain citizenship. That is some dangerous bullshit. The President hosted the most fringe of online conspiracy agitators at the White House last week. You don't think the xenophobia/racism and promoting the platform these people operate on aren't related? Wait until we see the real reason for the citizenship census question.
You are witnessing the re-election strategy. Roll back civil rights for marginilised groups to provide an easy target for anger and a barbaric motivator for voting. It's fucking repugnant.
morepork wrote:OK. So this is really fucking ugly now, and it will dominate the upcoming election as it is fanned into flames by social media.
I know your hate of social media is all consuming, but this would be a mess regardless.
There existed a physical rally for the President of the United States, attended by thousands, in which the crowd bayed to "Send Her Home," about a US citizen elected politician poc, who has lived there since she was 2.
I know we all know that happened, but I just needed to write it out to see it in black and white. That is utterly incredible (in the sense of being incredulous).
Puja
I'd heard 8, but just looked it up and it says 10...
Which firstly made me think: why is there nothing firm, and then made me think: it doesn't fucking matter!
morepork wrote:OK. So this is really fucking ugly now, and it will dominate the upcoming election as it is fanned into flames by social media.
I know your hate of social media is all consuming, but this would be a mess regardless.
There existed a physical rally for the President of the United States, attended by thousands, in which the crowd bayed to "Send Her Home," about a US citizen elected politician poc, who has lived there since she was 2.
I know we all know that happened, but I just needed to write it out to see it in black and white. That is utterly incredible (in the sense of being incredulous).
Puja
I'd heard 8, but just looked it up and it says 10...
Which firstly made me think: why is there nothing firm, and then made me think: it doesn't fucking matter!
It's disgusting.
It's even more incredible when you consider that they are claiming she is married to her brother.
Fucker is trying to walk it back. What a complete fucktrumpet. I rarely enjoy the HR training I have been compelled to take in various workplaces, but hey, some cunts really do need them some learnin'.
morepork wrote:Fucker is trying to walk it back. What a complete fucktrumpet. I rarely enjoy the HR training I have been compelled to take in various workplaces, but hey, some cunts really do need them some learnin'.
He likes the "dog whistle" space very much. He is trying to go back there, after being too open about it.
His prototype, Silvio B. from Italy, had a better political sense than this.
morepork wrote:Fucker is trying to walk it back. What a complete fucktrumpet. I rarely enjoy the HR training I have been compelled to take in various workplaces, but hey, some cunts really do need them some learnin'.
That surprises me. I felt sure he'd continue leaning into it.
morepork wrote:Fucker is trying to walk it back. What a complete fucktrumpet. I rarely enjoy the HR training I have been compelled to take in various workplaces, but hey, some cunts really do need them some learnin'.
That surprises me. I felt sure he'd continue leaning into it.
Puja
Someone has had a word in his ear. I think we are nats pube away from possible inciting violence. Imminent lawless action has legal precedent and is not protected by the first amendment.
morepork wrote:Fucker is trying to walk it back. What a complete fucktrumpet. I rarely enjoy the HR training I have been compelled to take in various workplaces, but hey, some cunts really do need them some learnin'.
That surprises me. I felt sure he'd continue leaning into it.
Puja
It's just outstanding to say he doesn't support the crowd chanting 'send her back' when this latest effort was started by him saying they should go back where they came from. He's not even agreeing with himself, again.
morepork wrote:Fucker is trying to walk it back. What a complete fucktrumpet. I rarely enjoy the HR training I have been compelled to take in various workplaces, but hey, some cunts really do need them some learnin'.
That surprises me. I felt sure he'd continue leaning into it.
Puja
It's just outstanding to say he doesn't support the crowd chanting 'send her back' when this latest effort was started by him saying they should go back where they came from. He's not even agreeing with himself, again.
Compare and contrast the moral courage of McCain who put a racist in her place during a previous presidential election to this buffoon who stirs something up then backs away.
Puja wrote:
That surprises me. I felt sure he'd continue leaning into it.
Puja
It's just outstanding to say he doesn't support the crowd chanting 'send her back' when this latest effort was started by him saying they should go back where they came from. He's not even agreeing with himself, again.
Compare and contrast the moral courage of McCain who put a racist in her place during a previous presidential election to this buffoon who stirs something up then backs away.
Can I assume we're talking about John not Meghan? And was that when he said Obama wasn't an Arab, rather than there's nothing wrong with Arabs?
Also McCain (John) did rather advance the cause of the Tea Party, promoted Sarah Palin to a lunatic level, and whilst it's not all on him we ended up with Trump he was no handbrake to the Republican Party abandoning reason, he was part of the bandwagon which has dumped the world in this mess
Agreed to all of that. But he corrected one of his supporters when talking complete bull shit when it would have been far easier, and maybe vote winning, to agree.
Sandydragon wrote:Agreed to all of that. But he corrected one of his supporters when talking complete bull shit when it would have been far easier, and maybe vote winning, to agree.
Yeah, he almost certainly would have won if he'd gone full racist and mobilised the conspiracy theorists like Trump.
Drain the swamp, drain the swamp, drain the swamp... or just flood it, your call Mr President
The balance in checks and balances would be well and truly toppled. Now maybe that's fine with a figure as honest as Trump, but try to imagine someone willing to put personal interests above national ones and it becomes a different story entirely
I assume the courts continue to rule they have no role in this process, in which case it's over to Congress, whether that's any sort of answer isn't clear. Though seeing as I thought the idea of Trump ever gaining the status of Republican nominee was just batshit crazy I should allow it's possible to get a batshit crazy judge who rules in favour of corruption
So the executive and judicial branches of government appear to spend a disproportionate amount of their available time working to shield the President's personal financial situation from the legislative branch, who are themselves occupied to a confounding degree with parrying conspiracy theorist nonsense regarding junior female legislators. The current secretary of state is preoccupied with creating photo opportunities for the Pres and his kids, while a bent real estate shaved Gibbon in a suit acts as de facto Secretary of state and is selling time shares in occupied Palestinian territories. The rest of the government apparatus is compelled to justify, somehow, blatantly xenophobic nonsense to the voting public in defence of an immigration ideology that is a case study in dangerous incompetence.
Who the fuck amongst these public servants is doing any actual work?
morepork wrote:That is fucking horrible to read. Is it taken from the Epstein trial?
The most horrible thing is that, while there's obviously no way to know definitively whether that is true, no-one's sitting here saying, "That doesn't sound like something Trump would say". There's not definitive proof that he raped a 13 year old, but we all know that, if he did, that would absolutely be how he did it - it's 100% on-brand Trump.
I don't want to take sides. Just one thing, Trump is well known for being verbally violent, and allegedly for forcing himself on women; still he doesn't have a record for striking people (alleged or not).
So yes, that part would be out of character as we know it. It doesn't mean the accusation is false or true. Just stating.
morepork wrote:So the executive and judicial branches of government appear to spend a disproportionate amount of their available time working to shield the President's personal financial situation from the legislative branch, who are themselves occupied to a confounding degree with parrying conspiracy theorist nonsense regarding junior female legislators. The current secretary of state is preoccupied with creating photo opportunities for the Pres and his kids, while a bent real estate shaved Gibbon in a suit acts as de facto Secretary of state and is selling time shares in occupied Palestinian territories. The rest of the government apparatus is compelled to justify, somehow, blatantly xenophobic nonsense to the voting public in defence of an immigration ideology that is a case study in dangerous incompetence.
Who the fuck amongst these public servants is doing any actual work?
Don't overlook Mrs Mitch McConnell as the Secretary of State for Transportation going above and beyond in service to corruption and nepotism that have little if not nothing to do with racism. Bar the current State for Transportation is in many respects the poster child for the possible positive outcome for immigration, as indeed is the President
